@bluesbaby @disk4mat

You mean aside from siccing the entire Justice Department on them and getting court orders to FORCE them to certify? Demand audits and handcounts to prove they're criminally trying to interfere with an election?

That kind of plan?

Maddow is smart enough to know that is just a lot of horsecrap, but I guess she doesn't feel her VIEWERS are.

@bluesbaby @disk4mat

Trump says he has "all the votes he needs" because he's suffering from dementia and he babbles a lot.

He's not a rational actor, why do people continue to attribute a capacity to make plans to him?

@mcfate @disk4mat

It's not from Trump; it's Mark Elias who is on the front lines dealing with the legal challenges. Because he's the source, alarms are being raised.

@bluesbaby @disk4mat

They'd be committing political malpractice if they didn't prepare for the (bullshit) legal challenges, no matter how silly those challenges happen to be.

That doesn't create any cause for "alarm".

@mcfate @disk4mat

Concern. Attention. Alarm. Call it whatever. It needs to be addressed.

@bluesbaby @disk4mat

It's BEING "addressed". Marc Elias, remember?

What does anyone's ineffectual "alarm" add to the equation?

@mcfate @disk4mat

Yes, and one way to address it is to help Marc Elias by making more people aware and assisting in whatever the plan is.

Don't be alarmed, then. It doesn't mean it isn't a serious situation that needs attention.

@bluesbaby @disk4mat

How does making more people aware help Marc Elias?

How will "attention" alter this situation any?

@mcfate @disk4mat

Enough. You're being contrary for the sake of it.

@bluesbaby @disk4mat

Huh. I feel like I'm shredding a weak and panicky call for MORE panic.

@mcfate @disk4mat

Oh, please. We're simply sharing info on a situation that is concerning.

@bluesbaby @disk4mat

Except you're just "concern-farming" to no actual positive end.

@mcfate @disk4mat

I'm leaning more toward the fact that there are already cases of state legislatures not certifying results. It's causing all kinds of chaos and delays. I don't think it's horsecrap.

@bluesbaby @disk4mat

I don't give a shit about delays, and neither should you.

How did those cases of state legislatures not certifying results work out for them? Why would they work any better THIS time?

@mcfate @disk4mat

Delays and an unclear result would sow chaos, and that's what they're counting on.

I'm not 100% sure of the outcome of the state cases. My understanding is things are still outstanding. It isn't an easy fix. I think that's the point.

@bluesbaby @disk4mat

Yeah, and the chaos would include Harris voters literally rioting.

Let me tell you the outcome of the state cases. They ALL lost. They ALL got their asses kicked.

@mcfate @disk4mat

I think we'd all like to avoid riots.

Do you know the state cases outcome for a fact? I haven't looked it up.

@bluesbaby @disk4mat

I just TOLD you: they ALL got shitcanned, with prejudice.

This isn't challenging: state legislatures do not have the latitude to refuse to certify election results on the basis that the results make them sad or angry.

@bluesbaby @disk4mat

And if they want to "avoid riots", disenfranchising half the population will prove a flawed strategy.

You believe people would sit still and just suck up behavior like that? I sure don't.

@mcfate @disk4mat

Of course not. Don't put words in my mouth.

@bluesbaby @disk4mat

I didn't put words in your mouth, I asked you a direct question.

You said everyone wants to avoid riots, and I said throwing out every Harris voters' ballot won't assist that.

@mcfate @disk4mat

Exactly.

@bluesbaby @disk4mat

Feel free to mute the thread if you find it disagreeable. You don't get to tell me when or what to post or not.

@mcfate @disk4mat

Will do.

@mcfate @disk4mat

Well, believe it or not, you're not the only source I need.

You're missing the point. It would be a mess. Best to avoid it.