It makes Formerly-Known-As users pretty mad when you point out that they're supporting Elmo and his Nazi buddies by using his crappy web site.
If you've got "friends" who are only "friends" because you're all on the same hell-site, they're not actually your friends.
@mcfate I still use Twitter...and I do so as there are still individuals that have not moved on to other social media sites that provide invaluable information I can't find anywhere else. My follow list is minimal and interaction even less. In addition, have tried other apps/sites but they are nowhere near information capabilities or capacity. Filters are your friends.
By not moving on yourself, you're giving other an excuse for not moving on.
And as I said, you're supporting Elmo's efforts to gain advertising bucks just by logging in.
What "invaluable information" is on Formerly-Known-As and nowhere else? I'm deeply skeptical of this claim.
@mcfate One excellent example of an individual that is still contributing is Mark Pittcavage. He is an invaluable source of information with regards to far right, neonazism, sovereign citizens. Though your criticism is valid, it is shortsighted at best and undercuts a source of meaningful and insightful information.
I mean, the antisemitism β which Pittcavage presumably opposes β is up about 3000% on there. I'm not sure what that says about his own priorities, but I'd have to say it's nothing very good.
Elmo won't do anything about the Nazis, but Pittcavage is okay with that, I guess.
@mcfate what better place to learn about these outer fringe mentality groups as well as misinformation and disinformation than what you refer to as a hellhole. You want to live in your little bubble and echo chamber?
@mcfate interesting that you somewhat question someone's credentials with as "not much of a communicator" when an "ACADEMIC" comes out of the ivory tower and tries to provide information through social media and interact with "common folks". Yes, Pittcavage has substantial written materials but time does progress and more has to be written on new charactersand groups. Yes, time for reflection on someone's part...
I was mostly being facetious there.
The point, however, is that you probably don't actually need Formerly-Known-As to keep up with him, it's possible by other means.
This sounds to me like some species of Fear of Missing Out, and that doesn't seem like a terrific justification for contributing life-support to a site that deserves to die.
There might be stuff that's only on 8kun, too, but who cares?
@mcfate You have an interesting way of convincing or persuading a person without any historical or factual points aside from being facetious. 8kun...really? /s
You could try actually engaging with the discussion, perhaps.
All you seem to be doing is getting upset that I believe being on Formerly-Known-As lends aid and comfort to Elmo and the other Nazis and haters he coddles there.
You seem to be having some sort of meta-discussion about how put out I'm making you feel. I don't really care if I "persuade" you or not.
Since you seem to be more focused on opportunities to take offense rather than what I'm actually saying, let me clarify that the point I was making is that Formerly-Known-As is not much different from 8kun.
Yes, really. Change my mind, if you like.
@mcfate It is interesting and entertaining how this conversation evolves:
1. My main point was to state a reason why I still use Twitter and gave one example: to follow specific persons that continue to be on the platform that are not present anywhere else. Mark Pitcavage
2. Yes, Twitter has become a cesspool but you can minimize it through filters and who you follow. My goal is to learn from those I follow and therefore my continued presence. 1/X
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3. 4Chan and its offspring 8kun are garbage and lack anyone with any credibility or authority on specific subject matter. Again, I am online to learn not to be overwhelmed by senseless diatribes. Were I a sociologist/psychiatrist/psychologist looking to study people that visit these sites it would probably be a gold mine.
4. Am I upset and having "some sort of meta-discussion about how put out I'm making you feel"? No, but I am disappointed. 2/X
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5. You don't know me and trying to make inferences from a few posts with regards to my state of mind is ludicrous.
6. I could have easily muted/blocked you without engaging but chose to make a statement: "I am still on Twitter for a reason" and stated why. I am not here to change your mind but to let you know why some people continue to have a presence on Twitter.
1. MY main point is that's a bad excuse.
2. Filters do nothing to address MY point: you're making the site more attractive and less prone to die. Appealing to blocks and mutes is like sweeping dirt under the rug.
3. Twitter is likewise garbage. There's literally no difference. There's a Mark Pittcavage somewhere on 8kun and 4chan.
4. Ell oh ell. You've posted THREE times in response.
5. My "knowing you" is immaterial to my point. You don't "know" ME, and what about it?
6. Yawn.
@mcfate looks like you unequivocally oppose anyone to use, visit, or interact with twitter in any way, manner, or form. Would you believe that there is someone else here on CoSo that constantly monitors, interacts, and engages on Twitter and at times posts said interactions when someone posts a bad review of CoSo, entices people to come to CoSo, and gathers other information from Twitter. Would you still wholeheartedly and categorically state he should not do so?
You bet I would, and J has pretty much abandoned participating in the site.
There's no good reason for HIM to be there, either, and it's frankly a little weird that you imagine my position is different for him than for you.
Unlike you, he doesn't make excuses for it, though.
@mcfate thank you for this feedback. Your response is appreciated.
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Except you can read Mark Pittcavage's papers, articles, and other writing other places.
If the only place you can get anything from an ACADEMIC is Formerly-Known-As, they're not much of a communicator.
What I see as "shortsighted" is people pretending that they're not supporting Nazis, racists, and Elmo by patronizing his web site.