Gee, imagine that... Christian values that actually reflect the values of the biblical Christ...
@whoHearer I like President Carter, I do, but his worldview is skewed. He's right in that, that should be what Christian values are. He's missing the point in that they've NEVER been that. Not in over 2000 years have they ever been that. We need to stop expecting religious people to behave like decent human beings. They're only concerned with pleasing their God's arbitrary whims, as explained to them by their preachers, ministers, priests, bishops, cardinals, popes, etc; not their fellow humans.
@whoHearer I'll go with that, everyone has different life experiences, but I have yet to meet one in my 66 years of life.
I keep remembering that the Sainted Mother Theresa had a TON of money at her disposal, yet had a routine policy of denying palliative meds to patients in hospice, on the theory that pain and suffering prepared the soul for death.
Or that Saint Francis of Assisi was reputed to have said that, "one of the joys in heaven was being able to watch the damned suffer in hell."
@TwiHusband As a former pastor who has walked away from the church and prefers to be identified as a humanist rather than "Christian," especially in the climate of the last 50 years, I understand what you are saying. The edit I would make is I would change your NEVER to RARELY simply because I have had the opportunity to see isolated instances where individual Christians did live up the ideal. It is rare, but it does happen. It just doesn't get publicized.