@ArcturusSaDiablo I technically should have had it in high school. It's where the dark began.

@Nick_Searles I have always had a dark sense of humor, even as a kid. I was born into a family that used dark humor as a way to cope with emotionally difficult situations. Does that mean it runs in the family? Because mom and dad were both pretty with it when they passed.

@cjcrew Dad had Alzheimer's and mom, Dementia. I'm just not sure if I'm taking the A or the D train.

@Nick_Searles I am sorry you have to deal with that. Mom and dad were good but my aunt was dealing with dementia (dad’s younger sister) and mom’s brother had it toward the end. So I have to suspect there’s more than genetics involved.

@cjcrew To me, as hard as it was to watch, the best part was knowing they had no idea how screwed up they were. Dad came back for a minute or so right before his last breath. THAT was a moment. Wow. Mom just moved a smidge, then went.

@Nick_Searles Maybe you’ll be luckier and catch the “C” train instead. For all we know this might involve something from the environment like lead in the water. Things weren’t as sanitized back when I was young as they are today. I was 7-8 years old when they started talking about water and air pollution. I remember them declaring Lake Erie dead from pollution, it’s cleaned up quite a bit.

@cjcrew Dad was a 4 pack a day smoker at 350 pounds with a bad heart and circulation issues. Mom never smoked, walked everywhere and took Zumba classes in her early 80's. Drank a little. Dad would drive 1 block rather than walk.
No idea how polar opposites got the semi same thing.

@Nick_Searles Genetics plays a part, if the healthier living person dies from the same thing as the more sedentary person it’s possible genetics got them in the end.

@Nick_Searles Four packs a day, that doesn’t leave a lot of room for breathing does it. Poor guy, cigarettes are so addictive and such a difficult addiction to break.

@cjcrew That's what they did back then. He did quit, joined a gym and took walks. But the damage was done. Made it to 83.

@Nick_Searles 83 isn’t anything to sneeze at. Pretty damn good for a heavy smoker. I’d be good with 83.

@Nick_Searles Yeah pretty much everyone smoked back in the day. We smoked in restaurants, hospitals, offices. In fact when I first started at MSU as an intern in 1991 they were able to smoke inside the building, in bathrooms, most offices. We smoked in the break room and bathrooms. Before I started they smoked in the computer room and the offices. Second hand smoke was everywhere. Now you can’t smoke on MSU property, inside or out.

@Nick_Searles My mom and dad were heavy smokers. I grew up in a haze of cigarette smoke, I remember visiting and when I got back to my smoke free Michigan home I had to wash all my clothes and take a shower because I reeked from cigarette smoke. Even had to throw away cookies my mom gave me to take home because they tasted like cigarette smoke.

@Nick_Searles Also realized you could be talking about second hand smoke too. I think my asthma was caused by second hand smoke as a child. I’m sure I made it worse by smoking when I was a teen/into adulthood by the base was set in my childhood living in a house with two heavy smokers.

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