@redenigma @MrGoat
12k!?! O_O omg

Our taxes are in with the house payment,along with homeowners insurance. The stupid bank sent us 4 different letters telling us the escrow was going to change; escrow shortage-pay now; home owners went up; sent wrong amount.
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Wut?
Seems the bank can't math. I had to send them a letter, telling them what idiots they are without calling them idiots, and I have YEARS of records of house payments.

They figured it out.

@GeezerWench @MrGoat NH has stupid high property taxes because the state keep cutting business taxes & has no other income

@redenigma @MrGoat We have about 3/4 acre and our taxes are divided by "property taxes" $550 a year. About. And then "school taxes." About $3000 a year. I forget the exact numbers. For our little 3 BR ranch on a basement.

I get wanting to give businesses incentives to do business in the state, but damn. Do people not realize this is SoCiALiSm for businesses? Why do corporations and rich guys get all the socialism?

@GeezerWench @MrGoat i have 62 acres, of which about 25 is wetlands/pond/streams & that stuff has really tax. then there's managed woodlot & woodlot/sugarbush (managed woodlot taxes are 43% lower than woodlot taxes), 5 acres pasture/& ag structures (taxed higher than woodlot) & 3 acres w/ house, which is the most expensive, but the house is over 200 years, so rather depreciated

@redenigma @MrGoat Jeez, that sounds like a lot of paperwork. But for the savings? Even I'd do it.

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@GeezerWench @MrGoat well, your forester files the forestry part of the plan, & the rest requires mapping the property. my property was put into current use in the late 60s, & i've only changed the forestry part.
the bad thing about current use is that if the property stops being used for what the plan says, you have to pay all the back taxes to when it was put into current use. so, if i sell to a developer they'd have to pay all the back taxes to take it out of current use

@GeezerWench @MrGoat except my land isn't actually sub-dividable, because of the wetlands :) there might be one spot you could squeeze in a 2nd house in the current goat pasture, but that's iffy because it's really glacially rocky (and would extend to where the dead people are & might not be able to fit a septic system because of those 2 things)

@redenigma @MrGoat
PA is very rocky, as well in spots. Luckily, we have septic tank with a drain field. No electricity required. Some damn fool came up with an alternative that just strikes me as a scam.

Sand mounds. A hole still has to be dug to set a 3-chambered tank where the black and grey water run to. Beyond that tank where a drain field would be is a special pile / mound of rock/gravel/sand, covered by dirt and grass. Solids sink in the tank. Black water is pumped up to the top layer

@redenigma @MrGoat of sand, requiring electricity, and the water trickles down. But it's supposed to be evaporative and makes the water go thru more filters before reaching the aquifer, leaving yucky particulates behind in the sand. After so many years (hopefully 20), that sand has to be replaced. While the chambered tank has to be pumped out every 5 years. Here it's 5 years. We just had our septic pumped. $300.

So you drive by a house and see a big, stupid hump in the yard? Sand mound.

@redenigma You'd have to explain that very carefully to whoever might want to buy it.

Jeez. Who could afford the back taxes to change the use?

@GeezerWench well, that's actually the point, to keep farm/forest lands as farms/forests, not developments.
it cuts into the developer's profits to change the use. example: there used to be a 150 acre Jersey cow farm in Nashua. just before the state implemented current use, the family sold the farm to a developer because they could no longer afford the taxes. the developer put up over 500 units of condos, a 1000 unit apartment complex & a strip mall... you can imagine what that did to traffic

@GeezerWench it pushed the state into deciding they needed to protect open spaces, farms & forests though

@redenigma Egads. The traffic would have suddenly been really shitty.

Damn shame when a farmer has to sell because of taxes. Around here, and in MD, you can spot a "tax sale" sometimes. You'll see a huge field, acres and acres of corn or whatever, and there'll be a nice square chunk cut out by the road, half to one acre, with a house. Just kind of random.

Farmer sold off a piece of land to pay bills or taxes.

@redenigma @MrGoat
Do you know her address? Or where her place is? Google maps may show you a house number. When you have a house number, you can search it on Zillow. It may not currently be for sale, but there may be old, previous tax info there. Maybe even previous sale prices.