@sheseala misses the point, with a lot of arguments
A person without a decent voice, trying to make it as a singer cause they got dance moves and a pretty face, a record label pushing them and pitch correction will eventually be found out to be a fraud
@Kinnison What point did the video miss? He brought up people being seen as frauds. He's noting when they shouldn't.
I mean I laughed at the meme, but autotune can't fix a person that can't sing much like makeup can't fix everyone's face.
If it could, what's different about what the labels push now anyway?
A good singer won't be seen? That happens now anyway.
@sheseala it was a Firehouse points some of which I do not agree with
Not everyone demands perfection, Pitch tuning is not the same as wearing makeup.
But there comes a point of pitch turning in post-production that is just trying to cover up a poor performer that is what I have against it
In fact, the big-budget production performances are what I view with greater skepticism on the quality of the performance being propped up by technology
@sheseala To think that putting on makeup is purely about cosmetics, just like how pitch correction is about making vocals sound better.
some people put on makeup because it is empowering and gives them confidence. Some see it as a ritual to get them in the correct mental state.
It is the fact that Performers and recording studios THINK people want perfections and zero flaws in the vocals is the issue.
Might as well just do everything on a computer than
@Kinnison Yeah and some do it to correct flaws and before you had to put makeup on to look normal on camera.
I wouldn't say that auto-tuning does anything for confidence, but it will save studio time.
For a recording, you're going to want to sound like what he artist envisioned.
You can argue that the use of session musicians is the a similar thing. The Wrecking Crew did most tracks for bands because they could nail the performance in a go.
Brian Wilson used those guys for Pet Sounds.
@Kinnison There are people that just don't perform live because they want things to sound a certain way. I wouldn't consider those folks completely without talent.
@Kinnison Not sure I understand your first line.
Why isn't it like makeup? Some people go without it, some people go with it, and some people wanna look completely inhuman. The post process autotune does that all only with sound.
There's times I know it doesn't work, they did it to Tim Minchin in Jesus Christ Superstar and he didn't need it (he coulda dropped the notes down to his range). It also isn't expected of live theatre.
But where and when it's applied I don't think people get.