@KennyLaney You mean "social democrat", not "democratic socialist".

The definition of capitalism: "An economic system based on predominantly private investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of goods and wealth."

I'm a (variant of) democratic socialist, and I can tell you the particular implementation of democratic socialism I champion has absolutely nothing to do with capitalism.

It's still market-based, but it's definitely not capitalist at all.

@IrelandTorin ...I just like the "socialist" things folks take for granted...

...like 40 hr work week....time and a half overtime beyond 40 hrs...paid vacation...

Things along those lines...that capitalist and industrialists fought hard NOT to give us...labor day is a remembering of a slaughter of workers fighting police and others.

If an employer pays you minimum wage...it means he'd rather pay you less...but law requires him to pay minimum wage.

@KennyLaney Those things aren't truly socialist in any sense; the reason so many Americans believe they are is because corporate propagandists sought to (leveraging the legacy of the Cold War & of McCarthyism) turn Americans against them by associating them with socialism.

In fact, you could take those policies a lot further and it STILL wouldn't be inherently socialist.

I personally advocate for a 36-hour 3-day work week, double-time overtime, 10 paid sick days & unlimited unpaid, etc...

@KennyLaney Side note: Why a 36-hour 3-day work week, with a 12-hour standard workday?

Studies have shown people are, on average, much happier and healthier with a compressed work week than they are with something like the 9-to-5.

Also, there's no reason whatsoever not to mandate that companies (in addition to providing a few paid sick days) allow employees to take as many unpaid sick days as they need. Refusing to allow someone to stay home at their own cost is just cruel.

@KennyLaney My peculiar implementation of democratic market socialism is based on a new type of corporation which adapts the shareholder model to enable non-state, direct public ownership.

Instead of shares being purchased by investment, each citizen is entitled to one equal voting, dividend-paying, non-transferable share in each such corporation; they are owned in common in the most literal sense. There's no way to get more than 1 share.

There's a lot more to it; that's just a brief summary.

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