I'm really curious about the toxic trait of centering oneself in things that don't concern you. This seems to be a trait almost exclusive to white men but I have kind of seen it occasionally with white women ... rarely though.
I learn a lot from people that I know in a variety of professions. I'm big on asking lots of questions because I love to learn from people who love what they do and are passionate about sharing / teaching.
The keyword being "ASK" ...
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In my personal dictionary there is passive centering and aggressive centering ... white people (both men and women) tend to do both. But white men especially tend to be aggressive centering types.
I think that white male aggressive centering is one of the primary reasons the Internet is 99% a cesspool. It never used to be and at my age I do remember pre-public Internet times well.
I wonder why this trait is so specific to men ... why their reality, perspectives, and knowledge is "above all".
I aggressively block both aggressive and passive centering types. I grew up in a family of toxic narcissistic self-centering people and those traits stand out to me loudly.
There are ways of sharing information with others both in your own space and also in others that doesn't have to be aggressively or passively centering.
Not everyone is asking for you to step into their space and share. It's important to know your place especially while within other people's personal or virtual space.
When I taught communications I always asked people why they didn't treat online communications in the same way they treated offline ones.
Some people had very clear reasons why they didn't consider online encounters with other people the same as offline ones ... but those answers were often about dehumanizing online presences as if they weren't real (scary though).
Some answers were more parasocial in nature as far as feeling inappropriately close or entitled to people online etc
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Would you walk over to someones table at a restaurant and start volunteering your opinions or knowledge simply because you overheard two people having a discussion in a public space? Would you do this in an elevator as well? Would you feel the need to center yourself between two people who are strangers to you and start telling them what you think about the subjects they are discussing? Is that your place? If you think it is I would deeply question why.
I actually think more people in current times - ie times that are ruled by social media - would actually walk up to strangers and do exactly that. I think social media has emboldened this kind of inappropriate social behavior that makes people think that absolutely everything they see, hear, overhear, or observe is 100% their business to interfere in which has advantages (like filming police brutality etc) and disadvantages (like harassment and bullying).
White people (especially men) have a very strong sense of entitlement ... and I think that is one of the primary reasons for their aggressive self-centering, audacity, caucacity, and arrogance.
That entitlement, enabled and strengthened by white supremacy and patriarchal bias, creates this kind of mild sociopathy and narcissistic behavior that seems prevalent in most men I encounter online.
What's the phrase? Not all men, but always a man. Not all white men, but always a white man.
๐๐ฏ๐จ๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ช๐ด ๐ถ๐ด๐ฆ๐ง๐ถ๐ญ,โ ๐ด๐ข๐บ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ณ ๐ข๐ฅ๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด๐ข๐ณ๐บ, โ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ค๐ข๐ถ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ช๐ต ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐บ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ง๐ช๐จ๐ฉ๐ต.โ ๐๐ค๐ค๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฅ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ฅ๐ฆ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ด๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ, ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฏ, ๐ฅ๐ณ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ด๐ด ๐ข๐ญ๐ด๐ฐ ๐ช๐ด ๐ข ๐จ๐ฐ๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ, ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ช๐ต ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ช๐ฏ๐ด๐ฐ๐ญ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ณ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ, ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฏ๐บ ๐ถ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ช๐ณ ๐ธ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ด ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ต๐ต๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ญ๐ช๐ฒ๐ถ๐ฐ๐ณ: ๐ฏ๐ข๐บ, ๐ข๐ค๐ค๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฅ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ด๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ, ๐ข๐ญ๐ด๐ฐ, ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ฎ๐ข๐บ ๐ค๐ข๐ญ๐ญ ๐ง๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ป๐บ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ด๐ด ๐ฆ๐ด๐ด๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต๐ช๐ข๐ญ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ด๐ต๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐จ๐ต๐ฉ, ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ค๐ข๐ถ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ด๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง๐ต๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ด๐ต๐ณ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐จ๐ฆ๐ณ.
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๐๐ฐ ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฏ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ค๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฃ๐ณ๐ข๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ถ๐จ๐ฉ ๐ข๐ฏ๐จ๐ฆ๐ณ, ๐ฆ๐น๐ค๐ฆ๐ฑ๐ต ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ฐ ๐ธ๐ช๐ต๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ต ๐ข๐ฏ๐จ๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ญ๐ฅ ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ฉ๐ข๐ท๐ฆ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ฃ๐ณ๐ข๐ท๐ฆ ๐ข๐ต ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ: ๐ข๐ฏ๐จ๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ค๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ข๐ด๐ด๐ช๐ด๐ต ๐ค๐ฐ๐ถ๐ณ๐ข๐จ๐ฆ, ๐ฃ๐ถ๐ต ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ต๐ข๐ฌ๐ฆ ๐ช๐ต๐ด ๐ฑ๐ญ๐ข๐ค๐ฆ. ๐๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ด๐ข๐บ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ข๐ณ๐จ๐ถ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต, ๐ช๐ง ๐ข๐ฏ๐จ๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ธ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ข ๐จ๐ฐ๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ช๐ต ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ญ๐ฅ ๐ข๐ต๐ต๐ข๐ค๐ฉ ๐ช๐ต๐ด๐ฆ๐ญ๐ง ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ด๐ต ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ? ๐ ๐ฆ๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ด๐ต ๐ช๐ณ๐ข๐ด๐ค๐ช๐ฃ๐ญ๐ฆ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ค๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ต๐ถ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ช๐ฏ๐ง๐ข๐ฏ๐ต๐ด, ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ฅ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ, ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ด๐ช๐ค๐ฌ ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ฐ๐ฑ๐ญ๐ฆ. ๐๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ฏ๐ข๐ต๐ถ๐ณ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐บ ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ค๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ญ๐ข๐ช๐ฏ๐ต.
- Seneca "On Anger"
The argument I hear most is that if you put something on social media that that automatically means its open season for anyone to comment. It's very similar to when I hear things like
If you choose to become an actor then you accept harassment, unwell people, etc. If you choose to become an athlete then you have to accept x, y, z ... If you choose to wear a certain kind of clothes then you are inviting x, y, z ... if you present as a woman then you should expect x, y, z ...
Is that true tho?
If you "x" ...then
You have to accept ...
You are inviting ...
You should expect ...
Are these phrases really what people feel about other human beings rights, space, thoughts, or beliefs? Those concepts all sound like self-centering excuses to me.
Why are those ideas more preferable over something as simple as just minding your own damn business?
As I've said so many times here ... just because you see something go by on the firehose, that doesn't automatically mean you SHOULD or NEED TO respond to it in any kind of way ... especially if it's something that has absolutely nothing to do with you, isn't asking for opinions, isn't seeking feedback, or especially if it's something you disagree with. You don't have to respond to ANYTHING you see. It's a choice you are making. It's not "because x happens, y must follow" ... It is your choice.
My experiences and my knowledge are two different things. Neither one of them makes me an authority on anyone else's reality. It's why you will hardly ever see me respond to anything anyone posts unless its to say thank you or something positive. Almost nothing here is any of my business. Unless it's something I posted on my own feed, then I personally feel I have nothing to offer beyond positive energy.
If you love it and I love it then I usually โค๏ธ it.
If you post it and I agree then I โค๏ธ it.
If you post it and it makes me feel something positive, I โค๏ธ it and thank you.
If you love it and I hate it then I am silent.
If you post it and I disagree then I am silent.
If you post it and it makes me feel something negative, I am silent.
If you step into my feed and say some bullshit, I block you or correct you or both.
It's that simple.
Almost nothing outside of my personal feed is any of my business. If people are sharing personal things it's because they want to be their most authentic selves and share who they are, their experiences, their knowledge with others ...
That is not an invitation to get in their business and center myself ... that's an opportunity to LISTEN and LEARN and APPRECIATE who that person is and what they are sharing. It's an opportunity to be thankful for someones openness and kindness.
I am mostly silent because I have very little to offer outside of my personal experiences in the world which I share on my personal feed. I'm not going to step into someone else's feed unless I feel I can learn something from them or if they have knowledge about something that I really want to learn about and they don't mind sharing. Other than that ... I am minding my own damn business.
๐๐ฆ ๐ฉ๐ข๐ท๐ฆ ๐ต๐ธ๐ฐ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ๐ด ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฆ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ต๐ฉ ๐ด๐ฐ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ธ๐ฆ ๐ค๐ข๐ฏ ๐ญ๐ช๐ด๐ต๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ต๐ธ๐ช๐ค๐ฆ ๐ข๐ด ๐ฎ๐ถ๐ค๐ฉ ๐ข๐ด ๐ธ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ. - Epictetus
For most of my life I was one of those people who had an opinion on absolutely EVERYTHING.
I am still that person ... the only difference is I have learned my place in the realities of everyone around me ... and I have learned to appreciate the beauty, knowledge, and epicness of others instead of critiquing it.
@thewebrecluse Thank you for this thread. It gives me food for thought. ๐
@HopeSeeker I'm always glad to hear that โค๏ธ I think my voice on here is annoying for some but I'm glad if any of it makes you think in positive ways โค๏ธ