I'm really curious about the toxic trait of centering oneself in things that don't concern you. This seems to be a trait almost exclusive to white men but I have kind of seen it occasionally with white women ... rarely though.

I learn a lot from people that I know in a variety of professions. I'm big on asking lots of questions because I love to learn from people who love what they do and are passionate about sharing / teaching.

The keyword being "ASK" ...

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In my personal dictionary there is passive centering and aggressive centering ... white people (both men and women) tend to do both. But white men especially tend to be aggressive centering types.

I think that white male aggressive centering is one of the primary reasons the Internet is 99% a cesspool. It never used to be and at my age I do remember pre-public Internet times well.

I wonder why this trait is so specific to men ... why their reality, perspectives, and knowledge is "above all".

I aggressively block both aggressive and passive centering types. I grew up in a family of toxic narcissistic self-centering people and those traits stand out to me loudly.

There are ways of sharing information with others both in your own space and also in others that doesn't have to be aggressively or passively centering.

Not everyone is asking for you to step into their space and share. It's important to know your place especially while within other people's personal or virtual space.

When I taught communications I always asked people why they didn't treat online communications in the same way they treated offline ones.

Some people had very clear reasons why they didn't consider online encounters with other people the same as offline ones ... but those answers were often about dehumanizing online presences as if they weren't real (scary though).

Some answers were more parasocial in nature as far as feeling inappropriately close or entitled to people online etc

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Would you walk over to someones table at a restaurant and start volunteering your opinions or knowledge simply because you overheard two people having a discussion in a public space? Would you do this in an elevator as well? Would you feel the need to center yourself between two people who are strangers to you and start telling them what you think about the subjects they are discussing? Is that your place? If you think it is I would deeply question why.

I actually think more people in current times - ie times that are ruled by social media - would actually walk up to strangers and do exactly that. I think social media has emboldened this kind of inappropriate social behavior that makes people think that absolutely everything they see, hear, overhear, or observe is 100% their business to interfere in which has advantages (like filming police brutality etc) and disadvantages (like harassment and bullying).

White people (especially men) have a very strong sense of entitlement ... and I think that is one of the primary reasons for their aggressive self-centering, audacity, caucacity, and arrogance.

That entitlement, enabled and strengthened by white supremacy and patriarchal bias, creates this kind of mild sociopathy and narcissistic behavior that seems prevalent in most men I encounter online.

What's the phrase? Not all men, but always a man. Not all white men, but always a white man.

๐˜ˆ๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ถ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ง๐˜ถ๐˜ญ,โ€ ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜บ๐˜ด ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ท๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜บ, โ€œ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ถ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ช๐˜ต ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜บ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ง๐˜ช๐˜จ๐˜ฉ๐˜ต.โ€ ๐˜ˆ๐˜ค๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ, ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ, ๐˜ฅ๐˜ณ๐˜ถ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ ๐˜ช๐˜ด ๐˜ข ๐˜จ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ, ๐˜ง๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ ๐˜ช๐˜ต ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ, ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜บ ๐˜ถ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ช๐˜ณ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ด ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ง๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ฒ๐˜ถ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ: ๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜บ, ๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฅ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ, ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ, ๐˜บ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜บ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ญ ๐˜ง๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ป๐˜บ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ด ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ข๐˜ญ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ, ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ถ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฅ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ด ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ.

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๐˜•๐˜ฐ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ฃ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜จ๐˜ฉ ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ, ๐˜ฆ๐˜น๐˜ค๐˜ฆ๐˜ฑ๐˜ต ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ ๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ญ: ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ฅ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฐ๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ง๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ต ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜จ๐˜ฆ, ๐˜ฃ๐˜ถ๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ฌ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ด ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ฆ. ๐˜ž๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ด๐˜ข๐˜บ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜จ๐˜ถ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต, ๐˜ช๐˜ง ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜จ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข ๐˜จ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜จ ๐˜ช๐˜ต ๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ญ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ค๐˜ฉ ๐˜ช๐˜ต๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ญ๐˜ง ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ญ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฃ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ต ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ? ๐˜ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ต ๐˜ช๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ด๐˜ค๐˜ช๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ง ๐˜ค๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ง๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ด, ๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ, ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ฌ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ. ๐˜›๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ฌ ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฏ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ถ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜บ ๐˜ฑ๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ฐ ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฑ๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ต.

- Seneca "On Anger"

The argument I hear most is that if you put something on social media that that automatically means its open season for anyone to comment. It's very similar to when I hear things like

If you choose to become an actor then you accept harassment, unwell people, etc. If you choose to become an athlete then you have to accept x, y, z ... If you choose to wear a certain kind of clothes then you are inviting x, y, z ... if you present as a woman then you should expect x, y, z ...

Is that true tho?

If you "x" ...then

You have to accept ...
You are inviting ...
You should expect ...

Are these phrases really what people feel about other human beings rights, space, thoughts, or beliefs? Those concepts all sound like self-centering excuses to me.

Why are those ideas more preferable over something as simple as just minding your own damn business?

As I've said so many times here ... just because you see something go by on the firehose, that doesn't automatically mean you SHOULD or NEED TO respond to it in any kind of way ... especially if it's something that has absolutely nothing to do with you, isn't asking for opinions, isn't seeking feedback, or especially if it's something you disagree with. You don't have to respond to ANYTHING you see. It's a choice you are making. It's not "because x happens, y must follow" ... It is your choice.

My experiences and my knowledge are two different things. Neither one of them makes me an authority on anyone else's reality. It's why you will hardly ever see me respond to anything anyone posts unless its to say thank you or something positive. Almost nothing here is any of my business. Unless it's something I posted on my own feed, then I personally feel I have nothing to offer beyond positive energy.

If you love it and I love it then I usually โค๏ธ it.

If you post it and I agree then I โค๏ธ it.

If you post it and it makes me feel something positive, I โค๏ธ it and thank you.

If you love it and I hate it then I am silent.

If you post it and I disagree then I am silent.

If you post it and it makes me feel something negative, I am silent.

If you step into my feed and say some bullshit, I block you or correct you or both.

It's that simple.

Almost nothing outside of my personal feed is any of my business. If people are sharing personal things it's because they want to be their most authentic selves and share who they are, their experiences, their knowledge with others ...

That is not an invitation to get in their business and center myself ... that's an opportunity to LISTEN and LEARN and APPRECIATE who that person is and what they are sharing. It's an opportunity to be thankful for someones openness and kindness.

I am mostly silent because I have very little to offer outside of my personal experiences in the world which I share on my personal feed. I'm not going to step into someone else's feed unless I feel I can learn something from them or if they have knowledge about something that I really want to learn about and they don't mind sharing. Other than that ... I am minding my own damn business.

๐˜ž๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ท๐˜ฆ ๐˜ต๐˜ธ๐˜ฐ ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ณ๐˜ด ๐˜ข๐˜ฏ๐˜ฅ ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฐ๐˜ถ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ ๐˜ด๐˜ฐ ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ข๐˜ต ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ ๐˜ญ๐˜ช๐˜ด๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ต๐˜ธ๐˜ช๐˜ค๐˜ฆ ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ฎ๐˜ถ๐˜ค๐˜ฉ ๐˜ข๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฆ ๐˜ด๐˜ฑ๐˜ฆ๐˜ข๐˜ฌ. - Epictetus

If someone wants my opinion, they can ask me for it.

Otherwise ... it's none of my business unless I feel that positive energy might be useful.

For most of my life I was one of those people who had an opinion on absolutely EVERYTHING.

I am still that person ... the only difference is I have learned my place in the realities of everyone around me ... and I have learned to appreciate the beauty, knowledge, and epicness of others instead of critiquing it.

Apologies again for forgetting the tag ... technically this thread is a First Coffee Thought, I just didn't have any coffee yet. I tag those so people can avoid my posts if they want to ... it's never intentional when I forget it. So, apologies again.

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@thewebrecluse Thank you for this thread. It gives me food for thought. ๐Ÿ™

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@HopeSeeker I'm always glad to hear that โค๏ธ I think my voice on here is annoying for some but I'm glad if any of it makes you think in positive ways โค๏ธ

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