Good. At least some people in high positions are still capable of feeling shame.
@DyDave only 'sorrowful' when he's been hauled across the carpet. shouldn't a man of faith have enough of a moral compass that he should admit his failings on his own & not b/c peeps force him to own his shit?
You'd think so, yes.
But then I remember that the archbishops and whatnot in both the Anglican and RC churches are, and have always been, more politicians than anything else. The faith bit sometimes gets lost a bit in the cut and thrust of it all.
Whether they were mates/relatives of kings, or persuading synods or conclaves to elect them to the top, they've only ever gotten the gigs by cosying up to whoever has the power to hand them out.
Yup. Only the other day, I listened to a podcast about Cardinal Thomas Wolsey, who was simultaneously the Lord High Chancellor of England under Henry VIII.
And Rodrigo Borgia springs to mind as another particularly political animal, but it goes way, way further back than that. Basically all the way to St Peter himself.
When the church and the law are essentially the same thing, it really brings out the venality in men who crave power. 🤷♂️
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which only further supports the notion that religion ain't good.
certainly not christianity.
@DyDave when i studied western civilization it was mostly about the catholic church. they were the politics, the oppressors, the billionaires of their day. & they had the power of god to call upon when peeps resisted.
Exactly. It was about control, and the very flawed men who wielded it used the Bible and all that as a tool to be interpreted however they like.
Think of the crusades. For guys who “shalt not kill”, “love thy neighbour”, and “ Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” they sure had no problems with convincing kings all over Europe to go off and unleash untold violence on their behalf 🤷🏼♂️
@DyDave oh, so not your garden variety assholes, then? just complete motherfucking cunts?
alrighty then. 🙄