Question for writers.... or anyone I guess.

What are your thoughts on using Ai as a tool for writing?

So I've been chatting it up with chatgtp late at night when I cant sleep, and I found it super useful for working out details of my novel. I'm being careful not to use it as a tool to write the novel FOR me, but to just talk openly with what is essentially a conversative search engine has opened up my eyes to some new ideas.

@DanIsWriting Nope. Absolutely not. It was created using people's intellectual property without their permission, and I don't condone that taking of someone's IP. No matter what.

@joycereynoldsward actually it doesn't. Its a language modeling program that generates responses based on speech behaviors from its training data. But thats how language works, its like saying that something is plagiarism because you formed a sentence using words you have heard before and sentence structure from hearing people speak.

This is not to be confused with ai image generation that uses stable diffusion, which approximates an image from keywords from its training data of images

@DanIsWriting that is not my understanding, nor is it what is reported from people who have identified plagarized content in specific writing AIs.

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@joycereynoldsward you might be right. What I am learning about openai specifically is that they are centering ethics, which no other ai company out there is. If Ai is as inevitable as the internet was in the 90's, I want to give my support to the company who is thinking about the ethical usage of it.

@DanIsWriting I don't think it's inevitable for fiction. For tech writing, yes. I even support it for things like writing special education documentation because the quality of IEPs (former sped teacher here) is all over the place, and could use the standardization (plus it would improve life for a lot of teacher case managers by saving time).

But for creative work? No. I don't like using any of the worksheets popular with some. To me, using AI for worldbuilding is...a cheat.

@joycereynoldsward I meant more as an emerging technology society will incorporate into everyday life.

I see what you mean though. I also don't like using exercises and formula driven techniques for writing.

But I do like talking about it. Working out my ideas with someone willing to listen. I guess thats the role ai plays for me, though I recognise the ways I could abuse that system to do all the work for me, and try my best not to.

Not everyone will hold back like that though.

@DanIsWriting honestly, as a former special education teacher and caseworker, I see the potential for AI in standardizing our documentation. It's a huge issue. BUT. When it comes to fiction, it's a huge issue. And for every person who is ethical about their use of it, there's a handful of others who aren't. And that's where the problems lie.

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