The word of the day, which I hope to hear but alas will not, is “remand”.
@mcfate His crimes are ongoing.
Two words: "due process".
@mcfate Two other words:”National Security”.
I think there is room for a healthy debate about the natural tension and cross purposes of due process and national security, if we can start by agreeing that both are laudable and neither should be absolute.
Sorry, you don't get to do away with due process in the name of "national security".
That's autocracy.
Upsetting you isn't a threat to national security, anyway.
Maybe you missed it, but you just advocated for summary, extrajudicial, arbitrary imprisonment for anyone you feel like calling a "terrorist".
I'm not in favor of that.
@mcfate Wow. So much for healthy debate in the absence of absolutes. Take care.
Oh, were you debating? Usually that involves facts, not pointless rhetoric.
I mean, having scrolled up to the top, it looked like you were disappointed to be deprived of a chance to enjoy a sort of cheap sense of vengeance from seeing Trump "locked up". You were mad that he wasn't going to be "remanded", right?
You wanted him locked up for "national security", and due process be damned, apparently.
What did I miss here?
Gee, that'd be GREAT.
But "LOCK HIM UP!" isn't "healthy" OR "debate", it's precisely as bad as "LOCK _HER_ UP!"
This isn't actualy complex.
No, my friend it isn’t. He did not blindly chant “lock him up.” He said the word of the day was “remand,” explaining he is still committing crimes.
My concern is his active rallying of supporters to do exactly what he has already done. This is not a hollering situation. He is a threat to national security.
Too, being polite is not actually complex.
Look, you could scroll up, or I could explain AGAIN that you don't get to REMAND anyone for making you mad.
"Being a [notional] threat to national security", per se, isn't an actual crime, sorry.
That's the sort of charge they come up with in autocracies. If you feel differently, simply cite the relevant US Criminal Code under which you'd like to charge him.
You have to DO something to break the law. Not SAY stuff.
Why don't you find a better hobby?
"Better" than trying to insist that the Fourth through Sixth Amendments somehow don't apply in this particular case.
@Boyceaz
If it was you or me still trying to overthrow our government, the word of the day would, indeed, be, "remanded." If our Justice system wasn't so blatantly broken, the same would apply now
@Boyceaz
Sigh.
Pre-trial incarceration isn't meant to be a punishment. There's no interpretation of reality in which Trump represents a "flight risk".