@IrelandTorin listenign now!

@IrelandTorin hell yeah man, your shit is great! Its right up my alley.

@AvalonFlame Thanks! I'm glad you like it!

Here's my thoughts on yours:

You've got some serious rhythm; excellent job on the percussion! You're definitely *much* better at percussion than I am; percussion's almost an afterthought in most of my stuff.

In that respect, your style is the opposite of mine haha; I focus almost exclusively on melody.

To me, your stuff sounds a lot like industrial, techno, or some hybrid of the two!

Just out of curiosity, when did you get into writing music?

@IrelandTorin Lol since I could make words tbh. I've always been into chorus and any instruments i can pick up. Played in various punk rock bands but have always left my heart open to any genre from classical to glitch. The songs I have up on my channel are my very first electronic songs.Everything else in life has been instruments and plugging in. So I def appreciate you giving it a look!!

@IrelandTorin As far as percussion goes, I'm guessing because when I played in bands we always defer to the drummer for the beat. So playing guitar, bass, and even accordion you make sure the beat is good and then you add a solid melody. If I tried to put the percussion in after i did the melody I'd have a hard time of it. Maybe challenge yourself to only write a percussion piece.

@AvalonFlame Ah, yeah, that's totally backwards to how I've always done it! I suppose that's probably an artifact of me writing without learning an instrument first hehe... and never having played in a band :P

I did try to write a percussion-only piece before, once, and fell flat on my face... but that was a lotta years ago, so I could certainly give it another go. Thanks for the tip, I should try that :)

@IrelandTorin gotta give it more than one go to know if youre really bad at it aye?

@AvalonFlame Yep! I generally give things I suck at a bit of time between attempts (while I develop other skills) because I find it's not uncommon for me to just... suddenly find I don't suck at it anymore if I do that.

@IrelandTorin i just got really good at being bad and eventually shit started to sound semi decent.

@AvalonFlame Betcha that approach was a lot faster than mine! It took me four years to get anywhere near decent, and another three after that to get to where I am now.

@IrelandTorin Well, I can def say I'm never too old to learn which is why im still out here striving to make new stuff and cross through my own boundaries and push further! the worst thing anyone can ever do is stop trying =D So happy you decided to drop in and check out my stuff!

@AvalonFlame Interesting! Opposites again - I suuuuucked at music when I was a kid, and was never really good at playing any instrument.

I wrote my first electronic piece 7 years ago, but the first time I wrote something that wasn't awful was about 3 years ago.

Interesting to see another genre-fluid artist! That's rare.

Ah, *that* explains the feeling I couldn't put my finger on! Some parts are amazingly well-done, while others hint you're a bit new at it :)

You're very welcome! Likewise.

@AvalonFlame By the way, based on the kinda stuff you write, I bet you'll really like this one:

https://soundcloud.com/red-fifth/overclocked-lifestyle

It's upbeat, cheerful, the melody might get stuck in your head, and IMHO it slaps when cranked :)

@IrelandTorin yeah dude, i love some 8bit shit. haha right on!

@AvalonFlame I'm glad you like it! :)

So, again just out of curiosity, do the band(s) you play in mostly do originals or covers? Cover bands seem to be waaaaay more common than bands who do originals these days, although that might just be a product of geographical location.

@IrelandTorin most of the bands i used to be in were "shitty punk rock bands" always original. sometimes we'd cover like maybe one song at the end of a good show, like a big favorite. but not usually.

@AvalonFlame Oh, that's interesting! Perhaps the punk scene is a little different than the genre scenes we have locally. I suppose that probably helped you gain experience with songwriting as well!

There's nothing wrong with writing a bunch of bad originals; you can't start writing good songs without first writing a metric ton of really awful ones :P

@AvalonFlame Anyway, I have to be up for work early in the morning tomorrow, so I should probably sign off for the moment. Thanks for the chat, 'twas fun!

If you have more to say, I'm sure I'll have time to respond some time tomorrow. Have a nice evening! :)