It's almost 9 years since the Scottish Independence referendum in which Scotland voted 55% to remain in the UK.
Since then, Scotland has been dragged out of the EU single market that had swayed so many voters in the Scottish Independence referendum to remain in the UK in order to avoid leaving the EU even temporarily.
How much longer must Scotland wait before becoming the kind of place it wants to be?
Fascinating discussion hosted by the redoubtable Ruth Wishart