@Ellico2020bis wait--are you saying that you have managed to nurse along a used laptop you got for $80 for 11 years?
Or is the $80 one for parts or something?
@Ellico2020bis ah, gotcha. thanks for clarifying
@rpardee This laptop I ordered will be 7.5x as fast as the old one, about as fast as the Ryzen desktop (Ubuntu) I built in 2020, according to PassMark. It's kind of crazy we're forced to purchase such processing power when most of us don't game or produce videos. 8GB is getting dicey given how large JavaScript apps are now but I'd be fine with 2012 desktop processor performance (which was about 3x the old laptop processor for my machines) with at least 12GB RAM.
@rpardee I bought the 11yo laptop new in 2013. It's kind of slow (was even for 2013), but I don't do heavy stuff on it. Web browser, SSH, some Office. It's not like I'm gaming. With upgrade to 8GB and SSD, still works fine on Windows 10. The new refurb one is working and has Win 11 Pro on it, but has a crack on the bottom so isn't A-grade. I have a "spare" laptop I can downgrade to 8GB and put its 16 into the one I just puchased, I think, and possibly rearrange some M.2/2.5" drives between them.