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@jurban That is hard to answer.
It is the American government and the NRA and the Gun Manufacturers that are culpable.
Military type weapons should never have been allowed in the hands of civilians. These guns are made for one purpose only...for killing people.
@MallyDaKatt
So, I think you are saying that the root of the problem is a poor categorization of the weapons?
@jurban
The 2A was written in the time of single shot muskets and pistols.
The Founding Fathers could not have foreseen the semi and fully automatic weapons we have now.
And yes, according to the BATFE, you can own an M16 that is fully automatic. It requires a special permit. Anyway I digress. The 2A needs to be rewritten for 21st century weapons.
@jurban
According to the NRA, Americans have the birthright to own any gun.
With that thinking, if I had the money to purchase an M1A1 Abrams tank, it is my birthright to own one. An M1A1 tank is just a mobile gun. Right? Ridiculous you say? Agree I do. That is the warped and twisted logic of the NRA. And the GOP backs the NRA
@jurban I think it depends on what kind of influence the parents had on the child. If we're talking mother of Kyle Rittenhouse level of influence-then fk yes-they should be held accountable. If we're talking-had no idea, had called authorities previously to report kid had issues-then no-I don't think they should pay-they tried to tell someone.
@FayreLylith
That would be an interesting policy:
- Document all events when a parent notified authorities about mental issues that could be a public threat.
- When a child commits a mass murder, check the list.
- If the child is convicted, automatically arrest the parent(s) that failed to notify the authorities
@jurban Rog...I understand the challenge-but you were the one asking in a poll...yes? That's my 1st shot, random thought on who could be considered accountable-outside of the actually person c committing the crime. If we're looking at outside influence-that's where I'm leaning...👍
@FayreLylith
Don't read me wrong - your post made me think more deeply about the issue.
I think almost all of these societal issues are nested-problems. We need to unpack them and only then start proposing solutions.
But, sometimes proposing half-baked solutions surfaces new dimensions of the underlying problem. That's progress!
@jurban I dunno...this one's ( the gun lobby) been around long enough that it should've been resolved. I don't doubt/question that for a second. The challenge there is the amount of $$$ that buys off representatives & keeps them quiet on issues that don't involve their own children.
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@jurban
I would say that the culpability follows on those who provided access to the guns. If a child accessed a parent's gun, then they share responsibility. If someone sold the gun to the child, then that person shares responsibility.
I'm thinking 10 years minimum prison time for making weapons available.