How can you teach integrity to:
A) A child?
B) A mature adult?
C) An immature adult?
@jurban Being surrounded by others with integrity and who will hold you accountable is very helpful.
I learned from my mentors.
@misslovelymess
Thanks.
Learning through emulation of mentors is a highly influential teaching approach.
But, what if the local mentors have little moral bearing? i.e. Drug Cartel. Can they still teach integrity? Does morality matter for integrity?
@misslovelymess
But, without fundamental values there wouldn't be the Law.
Is it possible that the Law is merely an average of the culture's values? Or, is there still something fundamental about integrity, morality and, ultimately, the Law? Can any culture ever justify murder and survive?
@jurban I would say that law is the average values of our culture.
Also, survival is an evolutionary instinct, and laws/group values are a mechanism to support our survival.
We already justify murder, no? War is justified murder.
@misslovelymess
War involves killing.
Criminal intent resulting in a death is murder.
I think "killing" and "murder" are slightly different and might have different ethical positions.
If a society was OK with murder, I don't think it could scale very much.
There is a concept of "natural law" where these ethics are addressed. This is probably where the evolutionary instinct is influencing our society's ethics and, ultimately, its definition of Integrity.
@jurban Really good question. People in those circles have their own set of values - as unsafe and violent as they are, they do have values. So yes, they can teach integrity to those values.
The question of morality is in the values, imo.