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For 75 years, the Palestinians - through their leadership - have rejected proposals to share the land that became Israel, demanding that the Jews leave the territory (which was the Jewish homeland before Islam existed) or be wiped out. Multiple efforts to make that second option a reality have failed miserably. What makes anyone think a two-state solution would be acceptable now?

@johnldeboer It might have been the broken promises and piles of bodies that made them suspicious.

It also might be that just like Israelis can be convinced to vote for people that aren't as honest as they'd like, so can Palestinians.

Or all sorts of humans. Happens everywhere.

Regardless, are you implying that because they didn't take whatever dubious deal offered in the past, or someone refused it for them, it means what's happening now is okay?

@johnldeboer I've had lots of people offer me deals that were basically like "Would you like to be fucked with or without lube" and then when I say I would not like to be fucked at all, they say "Well, then, you're just being unreasonable, so bend over."

@johnldeboer I hear too much about who should be blamed for things that are broken, and who should be punished, or who is allowed to hit who harder.

I'd prefer to be hearing how we fix and heal things. But apparently, that's not how we do things down here in Hell. Sorry. I meant on Earth.

@AskTheDevil No, I’m not saying that at all. My point was that the Palestinians have never accepted Israel having any part of the Jewish homeland. “We want it all” has been their attitude to previous efforts to share that piece of real estate. What part of “From the river to the sea” is not clear?

@johnldeboer I think that when they were shot up enough, that idea became attractive to a lot of people. And magnified by others.

And part of settling this is going to be people on that side being willing to accept they can't push all the Israelis into the sea.

Which will be hard if Israeli forces keep killing innocent civilians, including children, by the thousands, and inflicting dehydration, exposure, starvation, and illness on hundreds of thousands of millions more.

@AskTheDevil Yeah, Hamas certainly succeeded in their mission, knowing how Israeli forces would react, and that horrendous civilian casualties would result. Netanyahu took the bait. And now Israel is taking all the blame, which has permeated universities in our country. What happened to Israel’s vaunted Special Forces that captured Eichmann and rescued hostages in Entebbe and killed the Munich terrorists?

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