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So, what I would say to Joe is to forget about trying to debunk the lies coming out of tfg's mouth and start attacking him as the dangerous, delusional, amoral fraud that he is. tfg is the incarnation of evil. He is willing to sell the future of the country to gratify the insane pursuit of his acquisition of wealth and power. He is an insane criminal bigot and needs to be branded for what he is.
@jackdetate Yes, this^^^^^^
Biden clearly comes across as the sane honest candidate but he's not debating very effectively. Just imagine how Pete Butigieg would be taking him apart if he were standing up there.