"in early 1916, Jung (1963) and his family experienced a sequence of uncanny events (i.e., his eldest daughter espied a ghostly visage, his second daughter had her blankets snatched away in the night, and his son was beset by an anxious dream and fitful ravings that left him oblivious of his parasomnia and completely exhausted.
followed the next evening by the frantic ringing of his doorbell with no physically discernible cause.
Jung exclaimed, “The atmosphere was thick, believe me!”
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According to Jung (1929/1967),
“‘Psychic’ means physical and spiritual . . .
this ‘intermediate’ world . . . seems unclear and confused
because the concept of psychic reality is not yet current among us,
although it expresses life as it actually is”
"Jung’s personal experiences of the numinosum include his overwhelming portentous fantasies of bloody catastrophe,
his descent into the imaginal realm,
his encounter with the Spirit of the Depths, the recovery of his soul,
and his communion with personified archetypal beings who presented themselves to Jung’s ego image as wholly other."
"magic is born from a headlong collision with the unconscious
whereupon one recognizes that although one has tried “ones best to steer the chariot,” that in fact “a greater other is actually steering.”
According to Jung’s ego image, this is when “the magical operation takes place”.
This magical procedure (i.e., the reconciliation of the opposites),
the transcendent function, is enacted precisely by Jung in his preceding dialogue with Philemon."
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"In short, Philemon’s paradoxical words suggest to Jung’s ego image
that the gulf
separating rationality and irrationality
can only be bridged transrationally,
which is to say mythopoetically, by means of images and symbols.
paying attention to how the unconscious surrounds us.
everything we see, hear, touch, smell, everything has been presented to "us" through unconscious processes.
we experience the results of countless complex and intricately aligned processes going on unconsciously.
heartbeat, digestion, healing, all unconscious. even breathing, most of the time.
our cocky consciousness
a cockleshell boat
on a vast and mostly unknown sea.
we pilot our vessels
over the great water
in hope.
Philemon inspires Jung's own mythology, which integrates christian themes with those of other traditions, on the basis of universal archetypes.
@holon42 and the Jung family never vacationed at skinwalker ranch ever again m.
heh, yeah. too bad there's no videos 🤗
we can laugh, but why are we laughing?
such strange psychic phenomena do occasionally occur, although that fact makes hay for con artists to spin into their fool's gold.
nonetheless, i've experienced some. most i can rationalize to some extent, but there's one which was also experienced by a well respected internationally philosophy professor who rejected metaphysics.
he was so spooked by it, that he forbade me, yes, flatly refused to discuss it, at all.
i can elaborate.
i should add, that it occurred in his own home, alone but for my presence.
@holon42 you get around. 😁
as a child of the 60s, i have, yes. some very unusual, even unique perhaps, spaces and places.
@holon42 I would love it if you elaborated!
I've had a couple of "odd" encounters myself.
okay, after i take care of a few things. it will take a few posts.🤔
@holon42 @gemswinc @CanisPundit Strange! Thank you for sharing!
you're welcome. that's why i don't doubt Jung's accounts. he and Freud had one together too, after which Freud behaved like my friend, denial it was really anything.
@holon42 I had an experience I think I mentioned on here before. A friend and I were walking a short distance a couple of yards over from one friend's house to his house, in broad daylight on a suburban street. I remember we both looked up, I saw something that looked like movement above.
For a second, it looked like the entire sky rippled, in a weird diamond pattern, then it was darker. We'd lost 4 hours.
He refused to speak of what happened after.
@holon42 I asked him in the moment after "did you see that" and he said something about being on a plane with pilots, and then acted very frightened and said he didn't want to talk about it.
When I asked again later, he said quite seriously that if I ever brought it up again, we were no longer friends and I'd never see him again.
hmmm, fascinating. was anyone else around to notice if you both blacked out, or disappeared into wavy ripples?
people do get freaked by these phenomena, for sure.
were there any after effects? aside from astonishment?
@holon42 I didn't notice anyone on the street before or after. He seemed to think we'd gotten onto some sort of aircraft that had landed nearby. The ripples could have been a visual effect from whatever made me not remember what happened next. I doubt the sky actually rippled. It did look like an interfering wave-form of some sort.
I dunno, maybe someone slipped us some scopolamine. It was weird.
strange indeed, yes. losing 4 hours..
@holon42 It feels a little like I got alien-abducted, and my friend remembered and all I have is a blank spot.
"Jung (2009) claims:
The whole house was as if there was a crowd present, crammed full of spirits.
They were packed deep right up to the door and the air was so thick it was scarcely possible to breathe.
Then I said to the dark ones, ‘So speak, you dead.’
And immediately they cried in many voices,
“We have come back from Jerusalem, where we did not find what we sought. We implore you to let us in.
You have what we desire. Not your blood, but your light. That is it.”
yes, indeed 🙏🏻