okay, nauts.

here's a photo of
Gilgamesh with
the herb
of immortality.

to me it looks a helluva lot
like a bouquet of
ripe poppy seed pods😂

@holon42 or rose hips.. although those aren't hallucinogenic :)

@TrueBloodNet

i've never seen rose hips valorized in ancient architecture.

and i know the Egyptians used opium.

hence my suspicion.

@holon42 You're likely correct. To mention though, rose hip oil was used by Egyptians to keep their skin/face 'youthful'. We likely will never know for sure :)

@TrueBloodNet

oh for sure rose hips have many uses.

the plant in the epic was described as a kind of buckthorn growing at the bottom of the sea, but none of the photos of buckthorn look anything like that.

sounds like a reference to a deep dive into the unconscious, symbolized by the sea, according to Jung.

@holon42 There is a non woody plant who's first word is buckthorn but I can't remember what the second word is right now. Damn my noun forgetting abilities... grrr.. I'll let you know if it comes to me. Sorry

@holon42 I memorized so many nouns with my degrees that my brain filled up. Then, in my 70ish years they changed so many of them, even all the bird names are changing.. my brain said, let the computer remember this stuff. LOL

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@TrueBloodNet

yeah, the nerve, changing nomenclature without our permission 😡

@holon42 The bird folks don't want anyone's name in any way linked to a bird. It's really inane.

@TrueBloodNet

these days, people are afraid of finding out that some of those names belong to not so nice people 🙄

@holon42 That may be true but it's still foolish. Most folks have no idea which Cooper the hawk was named after. Now, many folks that knew that much won't have a clue. LOL

@TrueBloodNet

i know, it's ridiculous, but so is so damn much of what's happening 🙄🙄🙄

@holon42 ITA. I think we're kvetching about the small stuff cuz we're sick of talking about the big issues. :)

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