"I’ve spent the past few days talking with sources who work on and study tech policy and international law, along with those who are fighting the spread of child sexual abuse material (CSAM) on digital platforms. Today let’s try to answer three big questions from the arrest: Why was Durov arrested? Why is Telegram under investigation? And what does France’s move here portend for platforms more generally?"
How Telegram played itsef
https://www.platformer.news/telegram-durov-arrest-france-explainer/
"Building platforms responsibly means reaching compromises with law enforcement agencies that allow for the investigation of serious crimes while protecting users’ privacy to the greatest extent possible. It’s a difficult, expensive dance, and when it’s working right neither the platforms or the law enforcement agencies are satisfied with the outcome"
@ecksmc I prefer a deterrence strategy for dealing with the worst, absolute most heinous crimes:
Innocent until proven guilty, meaning no mass surveillance and no need to compromise platforms - targeted physical measures can be taken (with a proper warrant) instead once a suspect is identified. When truly, unambiguously proven guilty of something truly horrific...
Well, make an example of them. Slowly, excruciatingly, and most importantly publicly - until there is nothing left.
@IrelandTorin telegram just refuse to do any cooperation when asked - telegram has a long history of refusing - and that's what set this ball rolling a person was arrested for child porn and then telegram was identified as the platform of choice for sharing content
To me this CEO only has himself to blame and hiding behind free speech & freedom of expression is bullshit cause now that's become the story NOT that they, telegram, refused to help prosecute a pedophile by handing over data
@ecksmc Ah, I see.
They didn't even have true end-to-end encryption, and Telegram themselves had the *ability* to access the data, they just refused to.
That's a completely different ball game than "it's all end-to-end encrypted, sorry, we can't access it".
Yeah, if there's an active investigation into someone for an actual crime (ie not political BS like a charge for criticizing the king of Thailand), they have a legit warrant, & the company can access the data... they should cooperate.
@IrelandTorin exactly it was a valid request
the story has changed to "we have to defend free speech" from the same people who shout the loudest "we have to protect our children" friggin eejits they are what they should be saying is "we don't care about the children we just use anything to push our narrative & agenda even if that means we are in fact protecting someone accused if spreading child porn around"
Calling them halfwits is an insult to halfwits
@ecksmc Seems to me they *like* extremists and pedophiles.
At this point... I swear if there's anyone who's intelligent/self-aware and not genuinely a narcissist or psychopath (nor following one) among those types, they'd most likely have to be awful misanthropes who hate other people & not-so-secretly want to maximize the amount of suffering, exploitation, & death in the world.
I suspect there'd be far fewer of them if our societal systems didn't strongly reward virulent, vicious selfishness.