@bfgreen To be clear: It isn't that I don't believe in ghosts and spirits. I've seen plenty to convince me, in person, that there are real phenomena.

But after I've seen (in the presence of others), full-bodied spectres, objects flying across the room, voices that come from nowhere, and other things that belong in a horror movie, I can say that if you're desperately trying to believe those glitches in photos are proof, you're looking in the wrong place.

@bfgreen Oh, I forgot. Some are caused by cosmic rays interacting with film or camera sensors.

@AskTheDevil I agree a lot look like dust and even lens flare.

@bfgreen And to be clear - I'm not saying "I don't believe in no ghosts." I've seen some utterly non-ambiguous, hair-raising stuff. Transparent spectres that look and move like people, visible to multiple witnesses. Objects moving. Stuff that belongs in a horror movie.

Hell, I could argue that I _am_ "weird shit" incarnate.

But the orbs thing? It's bunk.

@bfgreen I feel like a desperate longing to prove something mysterious and difficult or impossible to test can actually blind us to things that are demonstrably real and do affect us. While we search for evidence of spirits, we might ignore things like war and corruption and global heating. Those are definitely real, and a bigger concern than ghosts, to me.