Just a reminder ... Sitting President bombed in the first 2012 debate. Sitting presidents usually bomb because they're distracted by the daily grind of running the country.

cnn.com/2016/09/25/politics/ob

Here's a column criticizing performance in his first 2012 debate with Romney.

"A stunned Obama campaign acknowledged Thursday that President Barack Obama delivered a lackluster and even ineffectual performance in his leadoff debate against Mitt Romney, mistakenly opting for a cautious approach to handling his opponent that all too often left Obama looking timid and disengaged."

politico.com/story/2012/10/how

A Pew Research Center poll published October 8, 2012 after the first / Romney debate.

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Romney’s Strong Debate Performance Erases Obama’s Lead

GOP Challenger Viewed as Candidate with New Ideas

pewresearch.org/politics/2012/

Spoiler for this thread ... Obama won a month later, 51.1% - 47.2%. Obama won the electoral college, 332-206.

So don't panic over last night's "debate." Lots of time to go.

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gave an animated speech today in North Carolina, acknowledging he gave a weak performance last night.

“I know I’m not a young man. I don’t walk as easily as I used to. I don’t talk as smoothly as I used to. I don’t debate as well as I used to, but i know what I do know: I know how to tell the truth. I know right from wrong. And I know how to do this job, I know how to get things done..”

cnn.com/2024/06/28/politics/jo

Here's what the editorial board had to say in 2012 after didn't live up to their expectations in the first Romney debate.

"... Mr. Obama’s competitive edge from 2008 clearly dulled, as he missed repeated opportunities to challenge Mr. Romney on his falsehoods and turnabouts."

Sound familiar?

nytimes.com/2012/10/04/opinion

From Democratic strategist Simon Rosenberg on Zombie Twitter:

"A new large sample, independent poll has Biden gaining 1 post debate, now leading, 45-44.

"IMHO the DC media world has been too quick to dismiss Trump/MAGA's ugliness, and we got an awful lot of Trumpian ugly last night. Appears voters saw it."

@WordsmithFL Seems like a pretty stable and well-grounded guy to me!

@spystuff Clearly whatever they shot in the butt with last night (according to and ) didn't work. Funny how Trump and MAGA haven't acknowledged today they were lying all along.

@DevinY1 Short of passing away, it's almost impossible to remove a candidate under DNC rules. Even if he wants to go, it becomes a free-for-all. The voters would have to choose a candidate who hasn't been vetted, unless the DNC goes with Kamala Harris, and the knives already are out for her.

nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elec

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I never cared nor read the NYTimes regarding Obama, because I felt he was great aaanannnnd he WON the election. So there.

@WordsmithFL The significant difference here, imo, is that Biden appeared to have age related difficulties. Aging is out of our control and inevitably continues unless we die. Reality sucks, but it is still real…

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