@redenigma I might have to wait before making that trip. I googled it and they said it's moderately challenge. Now I got a physique chisled from stone (in my imagination) but I think I gotta get some smaller hikes in. Chittenango falls is considered intermediate and I'm like I've done some hiking. Won't be an issue. Going to the base wasn't bad but coming up I was out of breath, full of sweat and racing heart. Carrying a camera bag and tripod didn't help either I'm sure 🤣🤣🤣