@Patti1120 Most of them KNOW conversion therapy doesn’t actually work. They are just trying to convince those who they force it on, and their families, that there is hope. The fear of “going to Hell” is their biggest selling point. I wouldn’t doubt that many of them (maybe not all, but there are definitely some who would) would do anything to “rid” themselves of the “problem” from the start because it threatens them. I was raised in one of the strictest cults there is… I know how they think.