@stuckinaredstate I was going to ask the other part of our G+ triumvirate - Jared - to join but he seems to be so busy it takes him weeks to respond to an email that it probably wouldn't work for him.

@NorthernInvader I have given up on his engagement. Last I knew he was working two jobs at 70+/wk. Been A while since he actively engaged, hell, even passively engaged.

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