I'm not scared of guns.
I'm scared of folks who don't know how to use them properly. And that usually means not shooting another person with it for a reason other than life saving self defense..
@MrGoat I'm a *bit* scared of people who *know* when it's the wrong time to use a gun but do it anyway. I'm also very fortunate to live somewhere where gun ownership is heavily regulated and relatively uncommon which means I'm lucky enough not to feel as though I *need* one.
@stueytheround Home Invasion defense is viable for owning one IMO. Or if you hunt.
@stueytheround not all states have a castle doctrine either, although they should.
@MrGoat I think it ought to be reasonable to defend your home, everywhere and perhaps if more criminals understand that breaking in could cost them their lives, they might not break in.
@stueytheround @MrGoat yep. I think that ideally we should be able to defend our homes, then the risk of I could be severely injured or killed as a result would put some off trying a B&E, but could it encourage others to go in super tooled up and "injure/kill first". It could spiral. It's a really tough debate.
Actually there is law that says you can stand your ground the UK's self-defense laws are based on the concept of reasonable force, which includes a stand-your-ground law rooted in common law
And you can use a weapon if someone breaks into your home as well as when standing your ground & that weapon is anything you can grab really
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@stueytheround yup because he used a gun while the intruder wasn't armed, which was seen as using lethal force over reasonable force and if memory serves right the intruder was actually running away... Giving himself up in ways
@MrGoat Oh yes. I'm not anti-gun by any means and the different laws over there allow for those uses.
In the uk back in the 80s/90s there was a test case where a guy killed someone entering his property using his shotgun. The dead perp was unarmed. The householder went to prison.
There is no "castle doctrine" or "stand your ground" in British law.