David Runciman has been chatting often on Past Present Future with Lea Ypi, who wonderfully challenges him.

This is a follow-up to two other chats on democracy, but the ideas posed here invite huge reframes:

"[In] globalized societies like the kind we live in, we are so interconnected, power is so diffuse, one vulnerability in one place is felt ... in the rest of the world. It makes no sense to think about national democracy in a world that is not itself democratic."

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/democracy-q-a-w-lea-ypi/id1682047968