If Biden ran as an Independent (no Democrat will vote for no marijuana legalization), he might actually help that affiliation get traction.

Plus he could call out Bernie for switching to the Democratic party when running.

@damselfly59 and this is how we remain a 2 party system.

(Party affiliation shouldn't matter so much as their plan)

@L_D_G I agree and if this were a Clinton Bush ticket I'd be okay. This one is serious if you want a democracy.

@damselfly59 so if whomever you personally plan to vote for was running as an Independent, you wouldn't vote for them?

@L_D_G not if someone as bad as trump would be the beneficiary of my thrown away vote. I'd be a Republican if they really were. I'd be a democrat if they knew how to fight. I am an independent but no base or electable candidate.

@damselfly59 I think if Bernie ran as an independent-which is what he has always done in VT and time after time is elected-he might have a chance. Him running as a Democrat 4 years after that party literally conspired against him makes his decision to again switch parties to run even worse. He's another 70 year old white dude and people are still willing to vote for him. He'd get votes if he made up a party.

@L_D_G oh yea love him. He'd get half the dem votes not half the trump votes though.

@damselfly59 you know, with how important you said this election is, if the American people (or the majority of) are still going to vote party lines, then maybe the American people deserve it.

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I'm pushing for a moral winner, not a moral loser. What some independents forget is the electoral and Gerry meandering, let alone keep em off the ballot bullshit wont be remedied by republicans. It maybe remedied with a dem complete control and a few new laws. But wout new laws and judges willing to enforce them indepents will never have a chance. Repubs no longer have any morals the win is the only thing.

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@damselfly59 gerry mandering just keeps primaries at bay.

If an independent has no competition in the primaries, they just motor on through. Pop up in the general for everyone to see.

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