Why? Is there an outbreak?
I read something on my friend’s timeline yesterday again. She posted a link about the number of vax deaths vs the number of measle deaths from the cdc
I don’t want to alienate her but i have to think that the number of vax deaths is obviously higher because vaccinations have been working during the years queried. Her opinion is that vaccinations are intentional and part of a scheme to reduce population.
*sighs not even sure i want to go there.
@Museek and yes Oregon is having an outbreak.
and for the first time, a 30+ yr old contracted it..
@Bemet_Or woah...
We really don’t want this happening again. People need to consider public health... seriously.... i GET that no one wants their kids to be injured or gave an allergic reaction but they’ll regret an outbreak much worse. Either way, there is risk and much more so with an outbreak.
yep. Oregon here. outbreak has everyone worried. i'm vaccinated, went to the pharmacy prepared to pay $87 to get another shot just in case, but they said as long as you've had two MMR shots you're good.
been checking in with my friends as able to encourage they get their kiddos vaccinated if they aren't already.
worried about babies & those who *can't* get vaccinated.
If you don’t know your vaccination status, remembering only one shot, then you probably ought to get vaccinated, particularly if you live in an outbreak area.
you have your own immunity now.. if you had it...
just like chicken pox...
I wonder when that's going to start coming back with a vengeance...
@Bemet_Or I never had cpox.. I got one dose of the vax before I went to china but not the second.. @Myrth @evistre @Museek @Kitty62862
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I had chicken pox before the vax was invented 😉
Me too. Had chicken pox prior to there being a vaccine. Had it as a young adult. I didn’t get the Rubella vaccine until I was an adult, when I was pregnant.
The advent of more vaccines has been a blessing. An uncle didn’t survive childhood due to a now-preventable childhood disease.
Anti-science loons anger me. It is child abuse, to refuse to vaccinate. But because anti-vaxxers are mostly white and mid/upper class, society coddles them.
@Myrth I just tried this talk (for the umpteenth time) with my room mate. Her argument: vaccination is not immunization and babies get 79 vaccines at once then they are autistic. Just repeats that over and over. I have to walk away. @ucantstop_me @Museek @evistre @Bemet_Or @Kitty62862
@DachshundSaidSo @Kitty62862 @Bemet_Or @evistre @Museek @ucantstop_me @Myrth Whenever I bump into anti-vax people, I ask why autism is so bad? Most people on the spectrum are completely normal people and live normal lives (like with all disabilities). They have their ups and downs, but so do people with glasses. Some go blind. Some manage it fine.
But I suppose I have a very distinct point of view on it, because many with my diagnose cannot have vaccinations.The shit is real with us.
@Fiikus_goddess autism is better than death, right? anyone who thinks otherwise confuses me.
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(disclaimer: I DON'T BELIEVE THAT VACCINES CAUSE AUTISM.
but for those who think they do.
is that really worse than potentially dying?)
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I think, at one point, there was an issue with the preservative in the HIB titer.
That’s the shot they get at birth.
Autism may not show until they’re 2.
We’ll never know.
I seriously don’t care.
I still have my daughter.
The major problem is gonna be the resurgence of Shingles in about 40 years, because people sheepishly followed Bullshit memes online based on Junk science, spouted by a Junk scientist, saying vaccines cause Autism. Hell of a thing to die from, because you're afraid your child might have a disability. Get Vaccinated people, unless you're allergic, then get the alternate vaccine.
End of Discussion.
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@Kitty62862 @DachshundSaidSo @Bemet_Or @Museek @ucantstop_me @Myrth @Fiikus_goddess @evistre
@Heucuva8 @evistre @Fiikus_goddess @Myrth @ucantstop_me @Museek @Bemet_Or @Kitty62862 What gets me is my roomie is a chiropractor so I assumed she'd know better. But no. She feels she has a duty to warn her clients abt dangers of vaccination. And they listen bc she has the word "doctor" in her title.
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I know a chiro who is the same way!! All illnesses can be treated through the right manipulation. It is very alarming to me.
lying assholes. @Minholkin @Heucuva8 @evistre @Fiikus_goddess @Myrth @ucantstop_me @Museek @Kitty62862 @DachshundSaidSo
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Rejection of medical intervention that has evidence of treatment success baffles me...one of my aunts died because she sought alternative treatment for disease.
smh
@Minholkin Her friend died at 54 bc she used only alternative healing (diet teas supplements) to treat stomach cancer. I watched this person cut things out of her diet until she only ate lettuce. Refused to see a traditional doc. Didn't trust them. Bc of propaganda.
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Oh... i have known people like this.. one similar situation.. Her husband contracted HIV while overseas, her new agey friend sold her a four thousand dollar “rife” machine that was supposed to heal anything using sound frequencies. His condition improved, she got back with him, contracted it herself then he died and she has been in treatment ever since ... real sad. They want to believe..
@Museek rife machine? oh...
you mean a grift machine... @Bemet_Or @Kitty62862 @ucantstop_me @Myrth @Fiikus_goddess @evistre @Heucuva8 @Minholkin
@DachshundSaidSo Rife machines are complicated and tricky to operate. They're one of the few new-agey treatments I won't totally write off. Treating HIV with one is insane though.
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@Museek Rife machines don't use sound waves lol
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I posted earlier about this... did you see it yet?
It has been probably 15 years? So my memory could be faulty. We looked into it at the time. My friend bought one for her husband. when we discovered my husband had prostate cancer, we decided to look at it. My husband, a scientist, brought up tech. he worked with (sonic? ) & asked questions no one could answer. My friend’s husband died HIV/cancer shortly after
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My husband opted for surgery and radiation and has been cancer free since. I actually took care of our friend, getting him into hospice because our other friend (wife) just completely shut down when the cancer ravaged him suddenly. He kept using the rife, eating healthy and surfing. Then in 2 weeks he dropped 40? Pounds and two weeks later he died. Extremely aggressive. He had HIV but cancer took him.
@Museek I'm not gonna force the many many people who were tagged in this convo to read through this, but your info on Rife machines is incorrect.
They use radio waves, and while idk what the official science-magic explanation for how they work is, voltage gated ion channels in cell walls are a real thing.
Also I've seen people using them for years with no ill effect. They shouldn't replace actual allopathic medicine but that's true of all alternative therapies.