@ChippySuave growing up just outside NYC, I always seemed to forget about Buffalo being part of NY. "Upstate" was Lake George Village.

I guess I owe an apology...

@RJMay3 No, no apologies necessary. For me, everything south of Albany (The Capital District) is upstate. North of Albany is the North Country. Utica to Syracuse is Central NY. Syracuse to Rochester is the Finger Lakes (Wine Country). Binghamton is Binghamton. Buffalo to the Falls is Western NY.

I grew up just west of Syracuse and you should hear the uproar when "outsiders" refers to the central NY/Finger Lakes region as upstate. LOL

@ChippySuave live in Westchester and Putnam, but did go to scout camp near LGV.
I know a hell of a lot more about Arizona, having bought a motorcycle here.

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