What baffles me about the whole Embryos are children thing is, when is someone going to claim them for EITC on their taxes?
"Do you have any children?"
"Why yes I do! In an IVF freezer in Alabama hospital system!"
"Um those do not qualify as children..."
"Sure they do! Alabama Supreme Court says they are! I need that tax credit to pay to keep them frozen, so pay me!" π
@ArcturusSaDiablo I'm waiting for it to happen cause SOMEONE is going to do it!
The IRS is under no obligation at all to pay attention to Alabama's lunacy.
"They're CHILDREN."
"That's STUPID."
"The State Supreme Court SAYS so!"
"THEY'RE stupid."
@mcfate π right!?
Exactly and And seems the sky's the limit on that so Alabama can expect a whole massive wave of "Children" to migrate to it.
@TheAbbotTrithemius I sense a massive lawsuit on it about to occur, because if they are considered "Children" then the EITC will apply, and that family can keep them frozen until the day they die and claim that unless another higher court states "No they are not" then it becomes a massive legal battle one which Alabama will lose
@Caryani ... good point
@Caryani Yep. If they're going to treat an embryo as a person, then anybody who is currently in possession of one needs to go to fucking town on that concept and use every legal loophole they can to annoy the shit out of the law people.
@Nimthiriel @Caryani I'd like to know whether it's legal to put your children in a freezer.
@peterquirk That's a valid question!
@peterquirk @Caryani I guess it depends on the effect it has on them. If it's the only way to ensure their survival, then it probably is.
@Nimthiriel @Caryani but I can't cryogenically freeze a child with a terminal disease with the intention of waking them when a cure is found.
@peterquirk Nor can you clone a child, or have another in order to harvest their organs to save the life of another. Makes 0 sense but doubt they have any
@peterquirk @Caryani No, because in that instance the treatment wouldn't keep it alive. But if you freeze it at the embryo stage, it does. So if an embryo is a child, then by definition, you are allowed to keep a child frozen in order to attempt preserve its life.
The point is that classifying an embryo or foetus as a child makes no sense.
@Caryani: It's an Alabama state law, not a federal one. The feds do not recognize it, only the state of Alabama. So there's no claiming it on federal income tax filings. That said, it could certainly and should certainly be claimed as dependent(s) by anyone in Alabama on their state income taxes, if they do have frozen embryos within the state's borders. If their frozen embryos are stored outside the state, they would not legally count.
@thedisasterautist Someone will do it, just like the woman in I do believe Texas went to court and won for the HOV tickets she recieved while pregnant. Her unborn was considered a 2nd passenger and both tickets were tossed out.
@Caryani
This plays at the level of the pregnant woman in the HOV lane and using her unborn child as a second to defend in court.