@Kalos Absolutely. Grouping is a basic function of intelligence. The issue is understanding how to group. If you group using inadequate logic, you end up with a fallacious, sloppy grouping. Blondes have blonde hair. That's rational. But Blacks are not "violent". We need to understand how to better "Group".

@jurban I agree that we need to understand how to better group, but I don't think it's as simple as that. We don't usually group based on logic, but something rather like a neural network noticing patterns of association and building stronger connections over time. Pointing out these connections, or grouping, doesn't have to mean that ALL X's are Y. It's still hella meaningful to point out that many more X's are Y than would be expected in the general populace, and to generalize.

@jurban I have a lot of friends who are cops, and I really like them on a personal level. But still, I can't deny the authoritarian streak that either drew them to the profession, or was brought out by it (or both).When I say fuck the police, I don't mean fuck the police as individual people, but fuck the police as police. As Phil Zimbardo would say, you can blame bad apples all you want to, but if they keep coming out of the same barrel, maybe you should look at that. I can't deny the pattern.

@Kalos, a deeper pattern to discuss. And if the profession attracts authoritarians, then there needs to be a better process for mitigating that propensity. I too have friends that are cops. Very good people. So I don't believe it is the profession that creates the bad cop. If there is a propensity, then address that. But grouping and disregarding any further parsing doesn't get us closer to a solution. And, the label we assign to the group makes it even harder to see the solution. Labels hide.