how the hell is a conservative party "disproportionately conservative"?
just like the rest of the Dem moderates in 2020, the race for second place still matters because they're running for VP. and if Trump taps Haley for VP we are in SERIOUS trouble. because Haley as VP checks ALL of the same boxes as Harris, and I don't doubt there are some independents stupid enough to think "I don't want Biden to be president, but I do want a WOC to be VP to ascend to the presidency when the extremely old white male president dies."
and Trump will never die.
on the other hand, Sarah Palin already demonstrated how absolutely repellant GOP voters find women on the ticket, and Ross Douthat clearly agrees, so maybe Haley as VP would just be a repeat of 2008?
YOU WOULD THINK that after the freeze of '21 completely collapsed our grid, they would have FUCKING WINTERIZED IT SO IT COULDN'T HAPPEN AGAIN, but this is Texas. Abbott doesn't have time or resources to protect Texans, he's got migrants to drown!
i was going to delete and repost this to include my favorite relevant self-made gif, but i don't want to lose all those likes so i'll just add it here:
Boomer women are only marginally less misogynistic than men, let's not pretend they're going to spend their husbands' money on progressive feminist causes.
yeah, like ones where the dude says his "love language" is physical touch so he doesn't "feel loved" unless he's balls deep in one of your holes at least once a night
@dietotaku The whole 'fascist boomer' thing annoys me all to hell. My wife and I are both in our late 60's, and we're as woke liberal as it gets. How can our generation be such an....embarrassment?
@TwiHusband it's not a boomer thing exclusively, it seems to be rather human nature to shut the door behind you (metaphorically). there's a depressing percentage of immigrant families who are anti-immigration, for example. i wish i knew what the recipe was for avoiding that tendency.
@dietotaku Yeah, it amazes me how many Latinos were Republican pre-Trump, and how many still are. Talk about cutting your own nose off.
@TwiHusband @dietotaku People who have historically voted Republican have always voted against their own interest. It always amazed me. I'm thoroughly ashamed that I have family members who support Trump. Makes me physically sick
@dietotaku I guess I know the wrong people. Most of the women I know are boomers and they are all liberals. Except one of my sisters in law, but she's really too young to be called a boomer.
@DavidKMresists it stands to reason that you'd be more acquainted with like-minded people. my MIL's a boomer and she's been a die-hard republican since her father-in-law would drive the whole family to the polls and order them all to vote republican. even when we lay out every single platform plank and she agrees with all of the democrat policies, she goes "...well i'm still voting for the republican." the secret: she's racist. that's all it comes down to.
@dietotaku I lived in a solid upper-middle class area in Michigan that was all for GOP and Trump. GOP is also professional people who think that sexual identity movements, immigrants and POC have taken over, and they are paying for those people to make America crazy.
@TheresaVermont yeah, that pretty much describes my dad. but the bulk of the GOP base is still the racist white trailer trash that only likes trump and the GOP because they all hate the same people.
@dietotaku I think Haley is going to have a lot of trouble appealing to college educated and independent voters. She's a hater, like the other Republican candidates.
@DavidKMresists haley is apparently popular exclusively with college-educated independents. she does that double-speak where she criticizes trump (for being an embarrassment, not for being a criminal or a bigot) while quietly supporting all of his policies. she's a conservative for people who fancy themselves "intellectual conservatives."
@dietotaku ew. I have learned to NEVER trust a Republican on the campaign trail. I bet a lot of her supporters are young.
Important to remember that Trump didn't bring a lot of new working class voters to the GOP. White working class folks voted Republican in 2016 at about the same rate they have been.
He *did* have a lot of upper-middle class folks switch parties to vote for him. And in both elections, about 60% of folks who voted for him were in the top 50% of incomes.
White folks without a college degree are the majority of his voters, yes, but it's not limited to those making under 50k.
@dietotaku I think mostly it's because the Trumpites are just gonna worship Trump until he keels over or goes to prison.
But partly it may be because he has the personality of an infected toenail.
@dietotaku what does conservative even mean though, if you are a rapist thief?
@DavidKMresists "hates brown people" apparently
They're conservative in the same ways, about the same things, even
@tyghebright seriously, like desantis literally ran for governor on kissing trump's ass, has he even said anything critical about trump at all? trump's over here calling him "meatball ron" and making fun of his go-go boots and desantis is like "INITIATE AWKWARD_SMILE.EXE"
I feel like we need to be more specific in describing the GOP base. it's not a simple as "working-class" - there's a LOT of POC who are working class and they're not voting Republican. you can also have a college degree and still be working class, they're generally not Republican either.
the GOP isn't working-class, it's TRAILER TRASH. white, uneducated, gay-bashing, self-loathing, "the Bible is the only thing I understand and I don't even understand that" TRAILER TRASH.