Fatiguing big-time on the "AI" gold rush.

It's quick and can seem miraculous (and entertaining, like anything that's got to put on show because it's lacking in real thinking) but yet to show me it has more value than a regular search on Google.

Some self gathering/comparison/curation of on Google and comes no where near reading primary resources. it may take more time but I would bet money it produces a deeper more intrinsic and valuable understanding of a subject.

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So decide what you want to be, a GPT prompter (in other words an Language modelling handler) or a person who understands the real thing. The thing GPT is designed to suck the marrow out of without giving any attribution or credit.

You can be both though, I guess. But still GPT cannot be sucking up so much of everything and presenting it as it's own magical thinking, anymore than a vacuum cleaner sucking up dust can claim to have alchemical God-like abilities to create dust from nothing.

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Now let's get to the creative writing/art/lyrics/music/film/video BS that's supposed to be so mind-blowingly "REAL".

Nope. I MEAN NO FUCKING WAY is it any of those things and incorporate the depth, emotion, reality, truth, spirit of real person who's put time, sweat, tears into getting to a certain place with those things and finally achieves something fucking original and amazing that lifts everyone up to a better place, opens up new breathtaking possibilities....
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....new worlds and adds to what's possible to share and communicate. It's a net gain. A net positive...a thing of the mind/heart/spirit made a real thing...

When I experience/hear/see/read any of that LLM stuff:

IT NEVER LOOKS/SOUNDS/FEELS/READS TRULY REAL. IN fact most of it is horrible and warped in someway that feels soulless and a laughably superficial facsimile that is bad. It's beyond bad. Most bad creative ventures can hit the most basic of the things needed.

"AI" isn't even that..
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Or anywhere near that.

I'm yet to be fooled by any of it like this NY Times article is stupidly trying to insist is possible:

nytimes.com/2023/04/08/busines

Yet, I guessed everything that was fake easily.

And they more I look at fake-generated stuff by this utterly over-hyped bs crop of "AI' tools, the more I can tell it's fake and the more grotesque and annoying it is....

Go figure, humans can quickly LEARN with their INTELLIGENCE to distinguish FALSE INTELLIGENCE ....

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Artificial (non)intelligence AKA "Generative" (i.e., derivative, regressive, destructive) AI is to truth what a troll farm and psy-ops is to truth.

Meaning it's not the truth at all, it's a feint at truth, that's FRAMED as truth with all the superficial aspects of a true idea or true fact, but once you remove the frame, the context, the over-hyped, overwrought corrupt internal self-reference in service to an agenda, breaks the fuck apart into a thousand sad pieces that crushes the spirit..

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It does not lift up, it's just something sad and fake that's hollow and diminishes us all.

The crop of AI services is a pathetic gold-rush. There's so many that depend on some gimmicky con-artistry.

I think it can probably do good things in crunching medical data and hard mathematical data and arriving to solutions that thus far were to labor intensive to get valauble data from, but what is that really???

That's more easily harnessed processing power, that's it and that's all.

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So what we may have with LLM is an interface, an interpreter, somewhere between auto-complete and Google translate hooked up to vast data and super-computer processing power.

It's not a stand alone entity. To really work well and really shine in what it produces or have what it produces be truly valuable, people, like with any technology have to do that and pick up all the missing pieces.

Like any tool.

But ultimately It's an outgrowth of the Internet and the horrid dishonesty and abuse..
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That it's engendered and it should be seen that way and controlled, regulated and even more that really...

But more than anything it needs to be taken off the mythological pedestal Silicon Valley has put it on because they think it's the gateway to producing trillionaires if it's sold the right way....

Anyhow, LLMs can't fool anyone of shit for long... The human brain is going to identify it, know it, categorize it and spit it out as not anything anywhere near it and it already is...

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TLDR;

I'm sick to death of being shown things that are obviously LLM produced and told they rival the real thing. They don't and it's getting easier and easier to spot t quickly and not only that I find most of vapid, soulless, fake garbage that's beginning to look, sound, read as grotesquely repulsive.

An not even repulsive in a good. way. That's unforgivable.

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/End sarcastic bemusement mode

@TheAbbotTrithemius

I hear you my friend. AI seems to frustrate you ay, ay :-) You raise excellent points. Ultimately, AI is an intelligence-mimicking tool. Like any other tool, it's how ppl are using it. I admit, AI amuses me. I like the quasi -conversational feel (vs. Google). Sometimes, I found it useful to just brainstorm, more like seed idea, thinking maps, frameworks. The side effects of AI being used without critical thinking, well, that is problematic, yes, but that's on 'us'

@artemis

Hi Artemis, old friend!

I may be taking out my disillusionment with technology and the future (two things I once loved and believed in) on it and those looking to deify it. Your uses for it sound active and positive keeping the focus on the user and not "AI" as some invincible entity.

"AI" should be greeted not with hyperbolic sensationalism and deification, but with patience, skepticism, and a sober demeanor.

"AI" has become a kind of Rorschach test as well, seems like.

@TheAbbotTrithemius
Hi, my friend, 😍
sorry for the late reply, daily hectic is 2 blame

What a great POV you bring: perceptions of AI as Rorschach test. Perhaps, as w/ everything new/'disruptive', the uncertainty of it makes it a mirror. We see what we want to see, and unavoidably, we project our own anxieties and desires. Am hopeful , bcz am very curious, by nature, am prone to see everywhere a toy to play with :-)

How are you? aside from wrestling w/AI? 😃

@artemis

Hey Artemis! All good here. Trying to balance things and back to creative pursuits in this time of non-stop, overwhelming digital overload.

I may have to spray paint:

DEVICES HAVE AN ON/OFF SWITCH

… on my living room wall or tattooed on my forearm and maybe on my forehead too.

😊

@artemis

I have begun to think that what’s wanted or expected from AI says more about person perhaps (me included), than anything else.

It’s like that line from the song GOD by John Lennon and Yoko Ono:

God is a concept by which we measure our pain.

It’s becoming more like:

“AI” is a concept by which we measure our pain.

With those expectations it’s possible AI ends up being a biblical failure.

@TheAbbotTrithemius

Yes, agree all the way up to the failure thingy. Hm, let's bet :-)

Do you know the pony story? I am the one who says There must be a pony somewhere :-)

@artemis

I guess I mean mostly in terms of disillusionment or AI-fatigue and it being de-sensationalized.

Do tell the pony story. :)

@artemis

Ah ha, I see. I like this fiercely optimistic defiant outlook on essentially a crap situation. ;)

But it raises some questions!

Who is the angry boy speaking to and why is the cheerful boy shoveling the shit back into the pile??

Why Artemis, why??? 🤣

@TheAbbotTrithemius

Oh, Abbot, you are asking epistemological questions. They are all Greek to me 🤣

@artemis

Okay, point taken, Artemis. :)

I could over-contemplate a plate of beans and frequently do. 🤣

I like the "there should be a pony somewhere" demeanor in life and strive towards knowing there's much to be optimistic about. There's good and bad in everything I hear. The secret is to figure out the percentages and then proceed accordingly. :))

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