@estherschindler wish when they explained medicare for all they mentioned everyone over 65 gets it already !Its not free you pay around $175.00 per month from your social security!Everyone who get it gets tons of offers from insurance companyโ€™s like united health care ,blue cross and the other to insure you many just take that payment but then you have to use their doctors and-screw you in the end with the gee that Dr is out of coverage BS or max payouts!I I spent 5 wk in hospital my cost $1200

@Oldguyaz Yeah, the thing is that we DON'T have choice. We're stuck with whoever shows up... when we are hurting and in no position to reject the option.

Honestly, a "Public Option" doesn't really do it. I refuse to accept a half measure.

Healthcare is FUBAR in the US, and nothing short of a drastic shakeup is going to stifle the greed. It's like an animal bite. Gotta pull the teeth out of the wound before you start to bandage it and stop the bleeding.

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@Heucuva8 @estherschindler @Oldguyaz I honestly LOVE my insurance - employer sponsored; employee/employer paid. I'm not fond of the whole "Medicare of All" - I'm all for Medicare for All that Want It. I want to keep my private insurance.

When people say that, I feel it's because they don't understand it. Right now, your plan is gouging prices and stacking the deck against you...especially if you don't make significant income. I can't even afford the monthly premiums to HAVE insurance. And we have 2 incomes 40+ hrs/week. I had to choose medical insurance or food, gas, and electricity. You would pay more in taxes, but less than you pay a private company just in case you get sick.

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@Heucuva8 @estherschindler @Oldguyaz totally understand that. I think it's more fear of the unknown. Will I still be able to get most of my medication for free, or at low co-pays? Can i see my doctor in a reasonable timeframe (I see my docs every 2-3 months for health issues), will I be able to get my tests like I do today... :(

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Yes and yes. Ask people who live in Canada about wait times for treatment. Ask Dennis Detwiller (an incredible artist I know, did work for Magic: the Gathering and Delta Green among other things) He moved there just before Lord Dampnut took over.

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@Heucuva8 @estherschindler @Oldguyaz why do i get the feeling the US would find a way to fluff it up? :( :(

@LilMaggie15 @Heucuva8 @ because one thing the United States is good at is innovation some one should figure out a way to beat the system !Everybody against single payer would point to it to scare people back to the old system !The system now from a billing point of view is ridiculous you have X number of insurance companyโ€™s with X numbers of different policies that cover or donโ€™t cover different things and only pay fixed amounts!Dr I think spend more money on collecting payments and insurance

@Heucuva8 @LilMaggie15 @estherschindler @Oldguyaz

well, we do have our wait times & issues w/ doc & nurse shortages - particularly in rural areas. but that's more about issues w/ conservative govts trying to privatize hc in their provs. health care falls to prov jurisdiction (mostly). feds try to preserve the public aspect.

that being said, it won't bankrupt you to receive treatment; we do have some of the best options in the world & i've always appreciated the access & care i've needed.

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