Vance is winning this, guys. Not by much, but he is.
Don't get me wrong, the VP debate doesn't matter, but if Thiel is to be believed, Vance is one Amendment away from the Presidency.
PLEASE start talking about where we want to go... Walz should be killing this. 
@Cosmichomicide
Are you kidding? Lie upon lie is winning?
Yes. Captain Eyeliner is coming across very smooth, slick and polished - and he's getting away with his spin.
There are a lot of people who look for that.
They aren't. I wish they were as well, but simply not the case.
Also worth noting that Vance is targeting the stupid people and he, like Rand and Ron Paul, sounds VERY reasonable while he says completely insane things.
Not sure the undecided at this point have much discernment in them.
@Cosmichomicide
Yeah, but it's so many lies. I really wish people were smarter or at least curious