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@Cadence

I don't know what your solution is. I agree you should be able to pursue your dreams. I disagree with advocating others join you. Absolutely not children.

My sister-in-law's brother cut his penis off and became severely depressed living in that life.

My brother lost his life there.

I have nothing against you until you try to manipulate others to follow your path. Let it Be!

That said, Chloe Cole is the bravest woman I have seen for quite some time ~ youtu.be/AL3WoKBCyco

@TC_Hitman did you actually watch the video? I very much doubt it! Drag Queens reading to children wasn't my idea and I think it's an odd choice but it's not in any way about making kids trans or sexualising them. It's about making people more accepting of those who are different to "the norm", from an early age. You know before they become biggotted!

@TC_Hitman gender clinics do not give hormones to nor perform surgeries on, under 18s!

@TC_Hitman right wing gunmen are killing trans people (and others) and then the right wing press including mainstream media like Fox News are blaming the killing of trans people on the trans people!

If you don't see a massive problem with that, you are part of the problem!

@Cadence
Chloe's testimony? I absolutely listened to her and every time I share with someone else. I am impressed by her courage and strength of conviction. Hey! I'm sorry, but are you intolerant of opinions that differ from your own? I hope bigotry doesn't lose its power through misuse.
Also, I have no bad feelings or thoughts about you so don't bring it! πŸ™‚

@TC_Hitman the video I posted, which you full well know, you gaslighting piece of shit!

@Cadence

Yeah, once the message becomes political, it gets hijacked.Still listening, but this doesn't feel like a path forward. I'm not sure this will change anything.

@Cadence
.Yeah, cool. This tactic will never succeed...hitler vs fascists...do you understand?

@Cadence
That video is pure garbage hate speech. It's not a path forward. My opinion.

@Cadence
How does that make me a nazi? You can't procreate, so you feel the need to manipulate. Then you wonder...

@TC_Hitman I can procreate plenty (you assume too much) and you're the one outing yourself a Nazi, dumbass!

@Cadence
My friend wants to know why your sexual orientation is anyone's business? She wants to understand. ps...she has suffered bs too.

@TC_Hitman pretty sure your friend doesn't know what my sexual orientation is.

@Cadence are trans ppl either xx or xy? yes. should they be able to live how they feel? yes. should it be in limits like for everybody else? yes. should anybody be killed for it? No. If u ask someone those questions and they dont agree with it then they are not a solution but a part of the problem.

@blizzn01 not everyone trans or otherwise is xx or xy. In fact there's quite a number of xxx's who don't know they are xxx and assume they are xx. There are also xy's who look like xx's because for some reason their bodies didn't respond to testosterone or didn't produce testosterone. However the variety of "intersex" people doesn't seem important in a thread about Nazis killing Trans people and then blaming the Trans people!

@Cadence see. if u r not willing to stick to facts then all this drama is for nothing.they might be nazis but for sure authoritarian and led by rules that are anti lgbtq. u have to avoid to play into those ppls hands. u tried to made kids shows with drag queens to make at least kids understand and this is the reaction u get. alienating more and more normal ppl. I want lgbtq ppl to be able to live their best lives. but u let the wrong ppl fight for ur rights.

@blizzn01 Where am I not sticking to facts?

You and some other people are getting way too hung up on drag queens reading to children. It's okay to debate whether or not that should be happening. It wasn't my idea and I think some of the drag queens, could dress a little more modestly.

What is not okay, is using that as an excuse to shoot people!

What is not okay is Fox News or any other mainstream media, blaming the LGBTQ+ community for right wing gunmen killing LGBTQ+ people!

That's fascism

@Cadence its just easier to help somebody if they are not perceived as illogical and with an agenda. if you dont know what facts are and the outcome then u r not better than them. smart ppl like musk abuse their children because u have no logical approach to it. this how twitter shit is happening because he thinks that woke ppl influenced his insecure son. i only have the best intentions. but some things make it very hard to publicly help lgbtq. and no killing is always wrong. even killing nazis

@blizzn01 you're mostly talking nonsense and you think Elon Musk is smart, he really isn't!

So let's just agree that killing people is wrong and leave it there.

@Cadence i m not the one suffering just trying to help. if my kid was like this i d tell them to create a persona for public and one for at home like everybody else. just to a differnt degree.

@blizzn01

"are trans ppl either xx or xy?"
Most likely, but not entirely. Life isn't neatly divided into binary absolutes. genetic.org/variations

@TC_Hitman
Whataboutism? Pointing to an outlier case isn't useful either. I'm not saying anyone posting info or ideas are totally correct or incorrect, I just don't see a single instance of someone w/ this story as condemnatory of the whole issue of transition.

@Cadence It's a long video, & I must be honest I may not finish it. But as NB, thanks.

@FernLovebond @TC_Hitman @Cadence its still a genetic error and will cause problems in the future if its not xx or xy. my point is that only ppl should publicly be allowed to discuss that can stick to fackts. no 0.00001 percent of ppl having something is not a reason to use it as a fact in a discussion. its about how to convice more than 50 percent of ppl for your cause in a democracy. there are 8000 gentic deseases. there should not be more of them because we cant do basic gentics.

@blizzn01
Not trying to disagree with your basic points, btw, I just tend to remind ppl that genetics isn't cut & dry, nor is sex (sciencedirect.com/science/arti ~0.2% of ppl are intersex), & certainly not gender. I also feel like pointing out that although genetics, sex & gender overlap & interact, they are none of them fully synchronous.

But to your point, there are more ways to have a democracy than merely "50% or more." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_v


@TC_Hitman @Cadence

@FernLovebond @TC_Hitman @Cadence u can of course say yes not all mammals or animals but we belong to the ones that need xy xx or we have problems in the long run. they bring basic genetics and trans women in sports to normal ppl and wonder why they face this criticsm. i can also promote thc legalization by smoking weed in a kindergarten. just i dont wonder about the outcome.

@blizzn01

I don't think I follow your train of thot here; perhaps 500 characters is too limiting for good understanding of the complexities of our positions/ ideas on such nuanced topics.

Suffice to say I don't like to see intolerance being touted as acceptable or excused with science or pseudoscience. Not accusing, just simplifying a deeply complex series of thots into an essential position.

And I think that's where I'll leave all this.

@TC_Hitman @Cadence

@FernLovebond @TC_Hitman @Cadence of course science should never have come into a social arguement in the first place. everyone involved knew that transwomen would just be happy being treatet as women. its the trans women who nuke their positions with science. at least the front waggon of my TOT is that we are animals that have to reproduce to survive as a species. who cant reproduce has to contribute and get the same rights.

@FernLovebond @blizzn01 @Cadence
It has been my experience in life that if you can't voice your opinion in one sentence, you are lost in the conversation. My high school English teacher hated me, haha

@FernLovebond @blizzn01 @Cadence

I am trying to catch up. Not sure why this topic elicited a response from me. Maybe it's my brother's life that has nothing to do with this. Or maybe it does.

@FernLovebond @blizzn01 @Cadence
I will tell. I felt like I was cheated out of an older brother because he was gay. I was so pissed at him for not hooking up with that hot chick (don't judge, she was brilliant). Then he lost his footing in LA. Mom sent me a picture and I went to his side.

I know exactly why he died. I was kayaking with "Hot, Blue and Righteous" that day and it was blistering hot.

@FernLovebond @blizzn01 @Cadence

I'm sure my brother wasn't hydrated for that heat and sun stroked out.

He was found three days later. Still alive. But he was being eaten alive by maggots.

Our society contributed, but it was the lifestyle that placed him on that dirt path where he lost his life.

Sorry, it is just too poignant to me that I was in my air conditioned truck having sex with a woman when my brother fell out. ~ youtu.be/l0kwYOE7Elk

@TC_Hitman @FernLovebond @Cadence everybody who goes to the limits knows it's bettet to keep a boring lifestyle. Gay or not. He just did a into the wild kinda thing and this is dangerous. Like lifestyles. If u r alone it's more risky. That's why we should not exclude anybody if they just want a peaceful life. U r Brother could have hooked u up with very hot chicks. Gays are great wingmen

@TC_Hitman

I don't know what to say about your brother. "I'm sorry, that's awful," seems lame and almost meaningless, but it's a sorrowful tale, certainly.

@blizzn01 @Cadence

@FernLovebond @blizzn01 @Cadence

I am happily surpised that I was not executed for voicing my opinion based on my life experience. Kudos to you overlord!

@Cadence as a trans person I find the rhetoric used by anti-lgbt groups very concerning. it's led to political action against our very existence, as well as real world violence and it's only going to get worse. I can only speak for myself, but I only want to exist in peace as my true self.

@Cadence

I love Jessie's ability to address bigots calmly and in detail. She always leads with compassion.

(Also, this post has lured out a couple of people I needed to block. One bigot clearly making things up and one sealioning, apparently for fun.)

@tyghebright yeah I blocked them too, once it was obvious that the conversation had gone as far as it could usefully go.

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